Discussion: Clinton Flips Iraq War Question: Obama Chose Me To Be Secretary Of State

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Sweetheart, he did that to keep you busy and out of the country. OK, HRC confab, attack!

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True… but still a great answer.

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And you are proud of being a condescending misogynist? Never, ever have children because you would just teach them ignorance and hate, junior. Quite seriously.

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That was such a stupid response it made me laugh. That was a brilliant answer and as I said in another story I AM SO PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT

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Too late. I have three kids and they are all wonderful responsible adults.

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Seriously? Do you think, with so much turmoil in the world when he took office that Obama would make an SOS appointment like that on those grounds?

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Yeah, I think she smacked that one right out of the ball park, and it was no softball hanging slow in the middle of the strike zone, either.

Overall, I think she did extremely well. I would probably rate her a B or B+ performance. There were one or two points I think she fell off her game, but she got back on track pretty quickly each time. I think she got a little too entrenched with some of her ideas, and dragged down into the rat hole of defending against other alternatives being offered up, but that’s par for the course in campaigns.

The Wall Street discussion I think that came out particularly loud. O’Malley was hitting exactly the right nerve with calling for creating a new Glass-Steagal Act, separating commercial and investment banking. Likewise Sanders was hitting a strong note when calling for breaking up the big banks.

That was a point where she should have backed up and let them duke it out, and said something like, “Interesting ideas. I look forward to having more discussions on the topic in the future”. But instead she kept on arguing that her way which was…pretty vague and lukewarm…was the best answer. The whole “I went down to Wall Street and told them to stop” line was down right embarrassing.

I also have to admit, at the risk of being accused of being in the O’Malley camp, that his lines on greening our energy grid came off very well. I know there wasn’t much detail (hard to drill down into these details in that format), but his delivery was spot on. And his line on the enemy he his most proud of…“N.R.A” was excellent.

Unfortunately for him, Hillary’s answer was much, much better. The question was almost a set up for her, to be honest. And she delivered.

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I’ve been hoping for a while that Biden would jump into the race. I still think he’s the best for the job. But after Clinton’s performance tonight, I’m less sure that he will.

I think the fact that he didn’t get in this debate, even after CNN left the door open, makes it pretty clear he isn’t going to. He is polling in third place; there is no way a candidate in 3rd place can skip the first of only 6 debates. Not with a late start and everything else from organization to funding against him.

And if I am wrong about that, I can’t see how he could have watched that and thought, “Hey, I am bringing something missing and really needed to that stage”.

You truly believe that Hillary’s response to her favorite enemy when she “semi-jokingly” said “Iran” before correcting herself was a better answer? A cynic might note that it was a dog whistle to the Israel lobby. I recall at least one other disparaging reference to Iran and the nuclear treaty.

“I think I have a lot of evidence what I would do as president,” she said.

Yes, I am serious. I didn’t say she wasn’t a good pick, but she would have far better as Secretary of HHS or head of Justice. There were very hard feelings between the Obama and Clinton camps, but Obama really had to give her something. I am not alone in thinking the SoS appointment was one with gravitas but also one that would keep her out of Washington. You see, we don’t all trust the Clintons.

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I still don’t see why Obama would appoint her SOS if he didn’t trust her, especially with so many foreign policy crises to tend to: estranged relations with our allies over the Iraq war, the Middle East qyagmire, relations with Russia after their incursions into Georgia, NATO and the question of missile defences in eastern Europe, etc.

I agree that that comment seemed gratuitous.

My point was that finishing it up on “republicans” was a pretty obvious answer,and one that suits her personally, and the party generally.

And, maybe because I am not Jewish, but I didn’t really see that as a dog whistle to the Israeli lobby. I saw it more as a continuation of a smart framing that the nuclear deal with Iran is because we don’t trust them, and we are going to be vigilant in keeping an eye on them. Yes, that gets played as a major Israeli issue, but right now, it gets played as a “Dems are weak on foreign policy” by nearly ever republican.

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