Discussion: Clinton Expands Her Lead Nationally Since First Debate, New Poll Shows

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Stein improved? C’mon.

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I was looking at the TPM tracker polls, and maybe I’m missing something, but it looks like Clinton’s average is being held down significantly by junk pollsters. They seem to be putting out a lot of polls, and I’m assuming it’s an attempt to make the race appear much closer than it is. I can’t decide whether that’s good or bad anymore.

On one hand, it’s good for keeping Democrats from getting complacent or voting stupidly, uhh, strategically. We need to stay on our toes. On the other hand, reality is reality and I don’t appreciate these people playing games with the electorate. And, more importantly, I wouldn’t mind Trump-leaning voters getting bummed out and deciding there’s no use in voting because they don’t think he can win.

I’m truly torn.

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One point is statistical noise, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some Sanders-turned-Johnson voters are giving her a look now that Johnson is imploding and even Weld looks like he’s ready to jump ship. That kinda makes sense.

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The TPM chart needs to be de-skewed!

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Looking forward to this trend continuing in the wake of the second deba…er, town hall!

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I wonder if Trump can even stand up for 90 minutes. That guy is so low energy and weak. And probably sick.

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I bet he was furious with Dr. Kooky for giving him a bad batch of energy pills for the first one. The trouble will be finding a combination of uppers and downers that keeps him ambulatory but also mellows him when some flat-chested fat chick dares to cry to him about her ugly daughter’s college tuition.

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Let him ramble on for 2 minutes about the temperature in the room, on national television.

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You can see the internal Obama polls from 2012 and compare them to the rest of the polling. After the first debate, the external polls all showed a big drop, while the internal polls didn’t and ended up pretty much the same as the final result. I don’t know if that means Obama’s polling was better than the external polls, or if there is something in the way external polls sample and correct for demographics that is not correct, or if the people they poll are more involved in the horse race and sensitive to changes.

I think it does mean that looking at fluctuations in the short term isn’t telling us much, and the long term trends are the more important story. And, Clinton has always been ahead and there is no sign of discomfort from her team, even when the polls turned down in September, so her internal polling is telling her she will win. That doesn’t mean something couldn’t change that…debate 3 could be a hatchet job against her and drive the polls for example. After this year there will be a big examination of polling, the way polling is changing and the differential quality of polling organizations is going to be a big topic.

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I assume you heard that, but for anyone who didn’t, the WaPo has it here. If he does that Sunday…

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Yeah, that and Rosie O’Donnell that now has challenged him to be a bigger person.
He definitely needs to bring Rosie up again unprovoked. Doh!

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Hopefully, the townhall techies will provide Drumpf with a rectal implant microphone, so we can all clearly hear where he is coming from…

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5 points would be Ho Boy right at 47% I believe.
The Romnerd curse lives!

And how confused will the conservatives be if HO gets equal votes as Romnerd and Palin/McCain.
They won’t know whether to teabag or shit in the kettle ; )

#lovingthis

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People are saying there’s something going on, maybe he’s sick. Who knows? Sad!

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Hard to believe the morons voting for Johnson, global warming denier.

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Suspense Thrillers sell well. Gotta keep the masses hooked and grinding their (our) teeth.

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I heard earlier this morning that DT isn’t prepping for the second debate, again.

How will DT be during a Town Hall move-freely debate? And how will the polls move a week after it?

Why does it matter? The junk polls are meaningless, and Hillary will win anyway.


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