Discussion: Cleveland Files Creditor's Claim Against Tamir Rice Estate For Unpaid EMS Fee

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Hideously inhuman. No other phrase cuts it.

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How much estate does a 13-year-old have?

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What a screwed up society we’ve become. This is inhumane and immoral on so many levels. That the city government hasn’t enough empathy to write off the expense of removing the poor child’s body from his death scene after their supposedly scared shitless, trigger-happy cops killed him for playing with a toy gun in a park is absolutely despicable.

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This is pretty much the definition of adding insult to injury. It’s almost as good as the Chicago PO who is suing the estate of the young man that he shot to death for infliction of emotional distress.

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The new word is pussy. Trump said so.

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China used to charge families of executed prisoners “bullet fees”.
Have we really descended that low? Well … yes.

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As outrageous as this is, I’m betting that the people doing it simply have no choice. They’re probably working with a city ordinance that says, “thou shalt do whatever is necessary to collect unpaid fees.” I’ll bet not even the mayor has the legal authority to waive the fee. This is a common, consistent feature of a lot of legislation - there’s never a final clause that says, “notwithstanding any of the foregoing provisions, don’t do it if doing so would be an offense against god and man.”

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So, you blame Obama?

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“The $500 fee is “owing for emergency medical services rendered as the decedent’s last dying expense under Ohio Revised Code,” according to the report.”

And that was put in place when and by whom?

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At least he didn’t sue the estate of the neighbor he accidentally killed.
/snark.

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It’s probably been part of the Ohio Code for many, many decades. I’m sure you’d find similar provisions in most places.

Sure, it’s offensive. But legislation rarely allows for discretion in its application.

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That’s what I’m thinking. This filing was under the rules for settling an estate already filed for probate. Part of that statute states than all outstanding debts shall be filed. Had the City been smart, they would have zeroed the amount before the estate was filed for probate. Once filed, however, they may be required (forced) to file.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2117

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Uh…oh…my yelling at the screen caused my dogs to cower for cover. Sorry, guys, but this was absolutely obscene.

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The legislation rarely does. However, the application and enforcement of it absolutely does. And we all know it.

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Ah, the irony of tone deafness in the city hosting the R&R Hall of Fame.

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Not if you’re some low-level functionary. Exercising your discretion gets you fired.

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FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....

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For OmAhHum, everything is always Obama’s fault.

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You just cannot buy that kind of publicity.

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Was it the fictional government in Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil” or some real life government that sent bills for the bullets used to execute their enemies?

@AntiSachetDeThe @MisterNeutron @chitowner I’m astonished that someone didn’t lose the paperwork.