Discussion: Cleveland Cop Who Killed Tamir Rice Had 'Dismal' Handgun Performance

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Cleveland Cop Who Killed 12-Year-Old Had ‘Dismal’ Handgun Performance

Well we know he can hit small children in less than two seconds at close range while jumping out a car.

Fuck.

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He was itching to kill a black man. He didn’t realize he was just a kid or he’d have had a full fledged stiffie.

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Yeah that guy totally sounds like someone who should be given a loaded handgun and be allowed to patrol the streets. WTF.

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Weepy?!!!

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From the link:

At one point, he went to the back of the range to reload his magazine and could not return to the line where he was supposed to shoot from, Tinnierello wrote. Loehmann appeared to be crying and was emotionally upset so Tinnierello said they would stop the exercise for the day.
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Polak concluded his report by saying that Loehmann lacked the maturity to understand the severity of his breakdown on the shooting range. “Unfortunately in law enforcement there are times when instructions need to be followed to the letter and I am under the impression that Ptl. Loehmann, under certain circumstances, will not react in the way instructed,” Polak wrote.

Wow. The exact sort of person we need protecting the peace. No way this guy panicked under the pressure. Looks like he just wanted to be a cop because his dad was a cop and he didn’t know what else to do with his life. How sad for everyone concerned.

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This incident seems to me to be even worse than what happened in Ferguson. Yet, in comparison, we hear little about it. Am I missing something?

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Even dismal ability is corrected for when shooting from three to five feet away.

“He could not follow simple directions, could not communicate clear
thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal,”
Polak wrote."

Why then was this guy allowed to remain on patrol and not immediately given some therapy and a desk job?? Or asked to find other employment??
Also will this guy also be exonerated by a grand jury as lots of other killer cops have been?

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So they are so hard up for policemen that they hire a basket case and give him guns???

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Does sovereign immunity cover negligence in hiring?

Too bad a kid had to die for us to find this out.

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Just the sort of clumsy Barney Fife we need protecting our wives and kids. Not.

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Well, he got the job done under pressure when it counted. He had no way of knowing the gun the kid had wasn’t real.

Weepy means sentimental or very sensitive, so yeah, what’s up with that?

The trigger happy incompetent was let go by his first department (a smaller suburban town) which knew he was incompetent, and then picked up by Cleveland. Cleveland is a big city. Usually big cities have better and better trained officers than small towns. Why did Cleveland hire Barney Fife anyway? Did he know somebody in personnel?

Oh, now I get it, Independence, Ohio is 96% white. We wouldn’t want an incompetent officer around white people.

Would you feel the same if it was your child or nephew or brother? I would suggest you and yours live very carefully if we adopt a “shoot first, ask questions later” approach to law enforcement.

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His incompetence (but maybe his partner’s) started when they drove right up to the child. Pull up nearby, make sure you’re shielded by the car, and use the P.A. to hail the kid and tell him to drop the gun and walk slowly away from it.

This guy and Wilson did the same thing - put themselves in a more threatening situation by their own actions. Who taught them to act like this? Or did they never learn?

(I say maybe his partner, because the partner could have been driving - I’m not sure from the video who is who).

Their driving up that way was truly a mistake on their part. It put themselves and the kid in jeopardy. I imagine their incident reports were saying things the video doesn’t confirm.

I hope we see the reports.

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So he shot the kid in 2 seconds after arriving on the scene without giving him any warning and without assessing the situation. There were no other people present, so even if the 12 year old had a real weapon he was not a threat to anyone.

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