Um thats bullshit b/c “community policing” = beat cops and communities mostly likely inhabited by non-whites. So Christie is joining the rest of the GOP and blaming blacks for most murders.
sigh…the joys of the culture of elitism.
“the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism.”"
That is the most blatant lie I have heard in years. And how in the world could Norah O’Donnell let him get away with?! At the absolute minimum, call him out on his source (obviously the NRA), let alone confront him with actual stats that show that he is lying. Of course a lot of the domestic terrorism uses guns specifically!
Reminds me of the Joker’s speech to harvey Dent in The Dark Knight:
I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple of bullets. Hmmm? You know… You know what I’ve noticed? Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan”. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
He (Christie) called for a focus on mental health and law enforcement.
That is a two legged stool. Without reasonable gun laws the killings will continue.
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A story which can bring a measure of cheer is the one of the three young men without a gun who took down a man with a gun on the French train, two guns actually and a knife. There will be a parade in Sacramento to honor them. There are also offers of scholarship aid to one of them who studies at Sac State. Plus they got kissed on both cheeks by President Hollande. How cool is that.
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Those men are real heroes. I am glad that they are getting even more than I had heard about 
To clarify what I said initially…we have this culture that worships the rich, the famous and if we can’t be them, we are meant to feel like failures and that creates a situation where there are people who feel they can become famous by killing people…and too often the media is complicit in making that happen.
…'they have a governor who …
Sounds as if CC is trying to distance himself from himself.
Chris Christie today: “We don’t need new laws.”
Chris Christie yesterday: “If elected I will make laws against Marijuana usage.”
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That’s right. The LAWS have nothing to do with it. It’s Super-Christie who keeps all the gun nuts in line!
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I don’t immediately recognize 3 of your 4 examples and that’s part of the problem. Christie is right that Americans feel more threatened by ISIS because that’s what they see on their televisions every day. They should be focused on the statistics but statistics are boring. The press only covers the sensational.
It’s like the analogy of boiling a frog.
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I understand. Just pointing out that it is only a partial point. 400 people in one year without any comparisons or law context isn’t easy form an opinion from.
Chris Christie ® on Thursday morning argued that the U.S. does not need stricter gun control laws to reduce the rate of gun deaths.
That’s true; strictly regulating access to ammunition would do a lot to reduce gun deaths without restricting the God-Given Right to Bear Arms™ in any way.
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You know I agree with this. Also as you know, the technology exists to make the stolen gun inoperable in the hand of a thief or non background-checked user like the one that was stolen from a car and caused the death of Kathryn Steinle four days later in SF. Of course real gun control would raise havoc in the secondary gun market that the NRA, industry and gun traffickers thrive in.
Christie is just scratching the surface when he says “gun control” is ineffective. Fact is real gun control has never been tried. Even the NRA says existing gun laws are not enforced. Then there are the real gun laws in places like Chicago and NY that are undercut by lenient laws next door that only foster a thriving gun trafficking industry that profits off straw purchasers who sell over the Internet and at gun shows and on the streets.
Imagine the outcry if pharmacies were permitted to sell Oxycodone or morphine to anyone who asks to buy for sale to whomever. Well this is the state of gun regulation today. Nonexistent in practice because it consists of a patchwork of 50 states’ laws instead of being based on a national gun policy, unlike the national auto policy that is real regulation.
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I think most Americans are tired — tired of violence, tired of lawlessness. They want folks to do something about it.
Why are we paying attention to someone who will never hold public office again? Someone who is basically just telling us he has nothing to add. I’d rather hear from people with ideas.
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inlabsitrust, that argument baffled me! When I heard that, I instantly thought it was a great idea, and thought “What could the NRA possibly have against ‘smart-guns’?” What is this argument? People won’t be able to share guns? The only thing I can surmise, trying to put myself in their shoes, which is an awful frame of mind to be in, by the way, is they believe, incorrectly, in the bullshit “slippery slope” continuum fallacy. So they will block any and every law that is brought up against guns. A zero tolerance policy. Only think I can come up with…Would love to hear other theories. Aside from “The NRA is a bunch of dumb racist rubes.” That goes without saying. 
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“I don’t know that anybody in America believes that they feel more
threatened by this than they feel a threat by ISIS or by other terrorist
groups around the world. I mean, it’s not like they are shooting at ME.”
In the VT case, the gun was stolen from the woman’s boyfriend’s house, so she probably would have had access to the tech to keep it operational, but still, that would be really helpful in other cases. Unfortunately, the gun industry is so against the idea of it that getting that tech pushed through is nigh on impossible.
With regards to the lax gun laws in one state fueling their neighbors’ gun problems, I’m not so certain. The issue came up last year about Vermont guns being funneled into New York and Massachusetts, but what they found was that the majority of the gun sales stayed local; however, that does not mean that the guns aren’t being brought in from well outside of the region such as from states with incredibly lax gun laws. Then again, I believe we have some laws regulating straw purchases in Vermont. What I remember from their investigation was that very few guns from Vermont were ending up being used in a crime in New York or Massachusetts. That does not mean that they weren’t being taken further afield for resale and use.
However, that doesn’t stop me from believing that it really is time to shut down a lot of this secondary market and gun shows. And you are right about the narcotics, but then again, I suspect we have the regulations because Big Pharma loses business when those are resold whereas gun manufacturers can sell ammunition to anyone and still profit.
I hope that is all cohesive and understandable.
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Not speaking ill of NRA members, just the leadership. NRA members and Second Amendment supporters can have their guns without giving gunmakers a pass on making a safer product that does not have kids killing kids, thugs overpowering police officers and security guards to get the guns that kill others, or guns that kill others in the hands of thieves and anyone who can buy over the Internet.
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Well, the tech also cuts into the secondary market and the sale of ammunition. Because gun manufacturers profit off of ammunition, implementing tech which cuts into the sale of ammunition really hinders their profits and they don’t want that to happen. Last I knew, you didn’t need a permit to buy ammunition and while a person may buy one gun, they often buy lots of ammunition over time.