Discussion: Chrissie Hynde Comes Under Fire For Saying Victims' Clothing To Blame For Rape

The internet has also reacted with a mix of outrage and dismay

Horrors, not the Internet, it’s usually so calm and rational.
People are entitled to their own opinions about events in their own lives, are they not?

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You are not an ass. Your post was spot on.

I 100% agree that she is wrong. There are nude & topless beaches worldwide where women go and somehow manage to go home safely from…because the men around are not rapists. And young women like Miley Cyrus and the body paint women of Times Square can dress however the hell they want and that doesn’t mean they’re somehow opening up themselves to physical abuse.

Hynde is exhibiting a ton of victim blaming herself, she probably has beat herself up over it for years. Again, I think the reason she does this is so that she can believe she is now safe, because, whew, she won’t make that mistake again, not realizing that it doesn’t what you are wearing. Women in burkas get raped, too.

I think it’s too bad that because it’s her, this message will get traction.

She must have a book or album coming out. Saying something so silly has gotten us who know little of Ms. Hyde’s work to pay attention. Publicists really know how to work the 2015 media.

See, I don’t get this. What exactly did you think she was saying in that song?

Even more specifically

“I went apewire 'cause I thought
Like I’d like it little tease
But I didn’t mean it
But you mess with the goods doll, honey you gotta pay, yeah”

None of this is news. I don’t get how someone can be a big fan and not know what that song was about. Even if you weren’t a big fan, the lyrics aren’t exactly encoded.

LOL. Well, just barely. She dropped out of college as soon as she could save up enough money and bolted for London. She kicked around there and France for years until they finally deported her (she quit her first job after 8 months, and was in and out of work. Well, real work like working for a magazine. They didn’t count playing for punk bands real work back then). The story goes that she even approached Sid Vicious about marrying her so she could stay in the country. And promptly ran back to London via France, as soon as she could. She founded the Pretenders over there, and hooked up with Ray Davies there, too (had a child together even).

Relax. I wasn’t gonna touch this article with a ten foot pole, but c’mon. Victim/trauma psychology squares with the self-blaming etc. It’s not hurting anyone but herself. She has more healing to do.

C’mon…Chrissie has done pretty damned good with her life. She set out to be in a band, she did it the hard way, and she has been incredibly successful once she made it. She took that experience, and many others, and turned them, quite literally, into music gold.

Some people deal with trauma in that way. Its their form of catharsis. But let’s not get into a pity party for one of the most successful women in rock -n roll.

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No one expects the PCish Internetquisition…

What did you think it meant before?

How is that possible?

If nothing else Chrissy should be applauded for suing Rush Limpballs for the unauthorized use of “My City Was Gone” as his theme song, and then making him pay both the settlement and subsequent fees to PETA.

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I’m not having a pity party. Not in the slightest. I’m just trying to be pragmatic here…it’s nothing more than her opinion, doesn’t change anything in the grand scheme of things and perhaps has an explanation that suggests it’s an understandable position for her to be taking, despite it being wrong and disagreeable. I can’t say for sure, because I’m a man and I’ve never been raped or had to live with the threat of it, but I’m pretty sure it’s something a woman lives and copes with for the rest of her life. One of those coping strategies/defense mechanisms, particularly in traumatic events that are all about power and control, is to take control over them yourself…which sometimes means shouldering the blame so you can believe you had control over it then and will have control over it in the future. Another place it’s seen a lot is with pedophiles, who are frequently seeking mastery over their own experiences of being molested and abused as a child (not to put rape victims and pedophiles in the same category, you understand). Obviously, that coping mechanism is a carefully maintained delusion and shows that the person is not fully recovered or has maybe reached the stage of being as recovered as they’ll ever be and will simply live with that strategy the rest of their life.

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I’d say that “don’t go off alone with dirtbags wearing only underwear” is pretty solid advice along the lines of “don’t walk through the neighborhood known for violent muggings with $20 bills hanging out of your pocket.” But people get raped when they’re dressed modestly and people get mugged when they aren’t flaunting their money, and I’d put better than even odds on Hynde having been assaulted by the same guy even if she had been wearing mom jeans and a baggy sweatshirt. That’s why blaming the victim is a crock.

apparently what you don’t get for being a jazz purist is the pleasure of chrissie hynde’s music. your loss

…the 63-year-old American rocker said she takes “full responsibility” for being forced to perform sex acts under the threat of violence after a member of a motorcycle gang who offered to give her a ride to a party

Um, what? It wasn’t the way you dressed that was the problem, darling.

Maybe you should be telling women not to get on a motorcycle with a stranger.

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Just another human interest story?

Of course I know what the song’s about. But her gang-rape revelation makes that line in the song that much more violent and real to me and I’ll never hear it the same. I never knew that she was a sexual assault victim and reading her opinion makes it even sadder to me.

And while I’ve always been a big fan of her music in the Pretenders (first four albums, at least) and seen them perform over the years, I’ve never read up that much on her private life. Only knew the basics from the odd articles I came across.

So, maybe not that BIG a fan, after all.

Now, Jimi Hendrix, on the other hand…

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Look, she’s famous enough that she has a soapbox, but she’s only hurting other women out there who are put in a powerless position.

Her therapist should have made that point.

What do your musical tastes have to do with this discussion?

If you’ve ever had the “pleasure” of listening to Rush Limberger you’ve heard her music as she wrote his theme song “My City is Gone”