Discussion for article #236285
I wouldnât have invaded Iraq knowing what we knew then!
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âChristie said that he believed former President George W. Bush did make
âthe best decision he could at the timeâ given the information coming
from the U.S. intelligence community and the situation on the ground in
Iraq.â SHUT!!
Well that was a slow moving question right in the middle of the strike zone. Thatâs too easy of a question for anyone to mess up. Well, anyone but a BushâŚ
The problem Republicans like Christie have is that âknowing what we know nowâŚâ is the same intelligence that Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz âknewâ then. They were briefed by the Clinton team and they even had the PDB indicating that bin Laden would strike. They were running the intelligence community then and they failedâŚmiserably and it cost more than 3,000 lives in the Twin Towers and more than 4,500 soldiersâ lives. In this case, as well as John Ellis BushâŚhindsight is not 20/20. For these folks hindsight is totally blindâŚand they should be called on it.
So Governor Christie, If we knew then what we know now we would have known that we didnât know enough to start dropping bombs so what would you do to avoid these know now what we didnât know then type of situations where we are acting with too many known unknowns?
âŚand knowing that JebbaTheButt got hammered .
OK, but that was a pretty easy questionâmost of the country would answer the same way. I wonât believe Christieâs a bona fide master of the bleedinâ obvious until he answers this one: Do you honestly think youâve got a snowballâs chance of having a political career ever again? That is, if you manage stay out of jail?
I am pretty sure if Jeb knew then what he knows now, he would have answered the question differently.
OkayâŚI think Iâm confusedâŚor maybe Iâm just seeing the world differently.
I might be seeing the two as separate entities. What I knew then about Iraq is that invading it while fighting a war in Afghanistan was a disastrous tactical decision which split resources and efforts. I knew then that Iraq did not have chemical weapons or a chemical weapons program and that dictators like Saddam Hussein engage in a lot of bluster to keep power. Shifting the war to Iraq was a bad idea because the Suni and Shia have historically been at each otherâs throats and anything other than a full commitment by the US to helping the Iraqis rebuild with them leading the way and with a leadership which they would have faith in was doomed from the beginning.
Basically, I knew all of what has happened would happen because I have studied my military history.
With regards to bin LadenâŚthe Bush administration may not have shown it as obviously as the GOP of today does, but the GOP hatred of the Democrats is so strong and bitter that they would much rather destroy the country than trust anything that the Democrats do. G.W. Bush and Dick Cheney pretty much went âyeah rightâ to the Clintonâs intel and said âweâll do our own intelââŚwhich because of Bushâs obsession with finishing what âDaddyâ didnât; Rumsfeldâs obsession with finishing Desert Storm, and Cheneyâs obsession with not winning the Vietnam War was an attempt to find some way to invade Iraq whether or not bin Laden and Afghanistan were involved.
Too late Crispy CremeâŚbesides, nobody asked ya. Your opinion is not required. Give it a restâŚYou ainât gonna be President anyway. So get used to it.
Heâs like the Arnold Horshack of Presidential PoliticsâŚCrispy knows the answer!
edit: except for the fact that Jake âThe Villagerâ Tapper asked himâŚI still say, nobody gives a fuck.
How come many of us knew then that we shouldnât have invaded Iraq and yet we were mocked by all The Serious People, including the media?
How come the very same people that made those poor decisions then (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Kristol, McCain, Graham, et al) are featured so prominently on the network news shows and asked their opinions of everything, now?
When will they ever learn? Even after so many young lives were destroyed and the world made a shambles, they will never learn. Itâs always ignore the past, on to the next war
HEY Christie! Knowing what the public does now, YOU should ST*U!
Heâs funny, like he thinks he has any chance in the world of winning the nomination. Heâll be lucky to get a job as a dogcatcher.
Who gives a shit what Christie would do in Iraq? I want to know if he would have shut down the bridge if he knew then what he knows now.
Iâm pretty sure if Jeb knew ANYTHING, he would have answered the question differently.
But then I donât know much about anything, especially bridges.
âBut we donât get to replay history.â
Interesting comment from an individual whose entire existence of late has been around trying to rewrite it.
Now thatâs a very good question for Crispy? Iâd pay to see one of these Villagers ask him that, just to see the reaction on his face.
Christie isnât even going to get for enough in a presidential campaign for voters to care.