Good, one less waste of time trial needed.
I wait for the âfog of warâ to lift, to understand what happened here. And I hope we did not lose vital information with this suspect.
Where the hell did the Police get a bomb?
I wouldâve accepted concern about additional loss of life among the police community, but if trials are a waste of time, you quite frankly live in the wrong country.
I would assume (not very reliable, obviously) that the âbombâ was fashioned from some of the shaped charges and other components the bomb squad has for controlled detonation. Since it only killed the suspect and didnât bring down the building, that would make more sense to me than a âbombâ
But then, Philadephia police were pretty resourceful in acquiring a much greater explosive device on short notice. So anythingâs possible I guess.
My first thought was a grenade of some sort. He must have been holed up pretty solidly if police snipers couldnât even get a bead on him.
I am not going to second guess the cops here but I, for one, think a trial might have been a useful exercise. Among other things we are a country of laws and justice is important and a trial might have helped heal a lot of unnecessary divisions.
I find it disconcerting that an individual was intentionally taken out by an explosive device delivered by a robot. Iâm all for protecting the police, but if they can mount an explosive why couldnât they mount a tear gas container or other non-lethal device? If that didnât work, then ratchet it up a level. This plays into the narrative of police killing needlessly, as explained by the police to the press. Obviously, we donât know all of the circumstances involved, but from the perspective of a non-white (and I am white) it reinforces certain perceptions.
They killed him rather than give him a day in court. They could have just as easily disabled him with any amount of tear or knockout gas. Instead they chose to blow him up.
I donât think this one can be filed under âpolice killing needlesslyâ.
Tear gas? Might have had a mask. Might have just sat there waiting in his mask until police, thinking he was disabled, came to get him and then you have a couple more cops getting shot.
Non-lethal device? What is that, exactly? And do you think the guy is going to let you roll up robot after robot until you manage to disable him?
Iâm all for prosecuting police who are needlessly violent, but once you shoot a dozen cops and kill five of them your odds of making it out alive are pretty slim.
- Robots have video so if a mask is used/present it can be seen. 2) Lots of non-lethal devices have been developed for the police and military. They are being deployed to the convention cities for crowd control. Access to them in Dallas would be the key. No, you arenât going to roll in multiple robots, but it would change the narrative and perception if you could detail attempts other than lethal force at the get go.
Is this the first instance of an American citizen being robot-bombed to death by police? Looks like another serious problem has just been created and it is very troubling.
Congress should call for immediate hearings.
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Where the hell did the Police get a bomb?
[/quote] I was wondering the same thing. What a crazy part of this whole insane story.
The perp is like âHey little robot man, what you doing here? Between you and me, I was kidding about having this place rigged with IEDs, so nothing for you to do. Go on home to your little robot kids. Hm, whatâs that in your hand, little guy?â
I wonder if the robot had Hippocratic-Oath-style misgivings about what it was doing?
That thought occurred to me, as well. Iâll be curious at the response to this, particularly when compared with the response to our âtaking outâ Anwar Al-Awlaki and others through drone strikes. The concern then was that it denied them due process and Obama became judge and executioner. My own impression was that it was folly to believe we should wait until we could capture them alive under circumstances that made that virtually impossible.
Here, on the other hand, if we could get a robot in with a bomb, we could have equipped the robot with a disabling gas that would have knocked the suspect out or disabled him without killing him. Tear gas might not have been enough (maybe it would have) but we certainly have other chemicals that would do the job. Iâm just puzzled at the need to kill him.
Apparently the word âseigeâ is not in their vocabulary. Yeah, it might have taken a day or two, but he would have come out sooner or later.
I hope there is more to this story because as it is âcornered Black man killed by a robot with a bombâ plays into the complaint many of us have expressed for years that the police overuse force unnecessarily and especially with Black people. As is the story feeds the stereotype we have come yo expect from those we pay to protect us.
This is just the latest abuse of military hardware by civilian police. The robot was developed for the military, to defuse or destroy IEDs. It was not intended for use delivering a grenade to a civilian. There must be an inquiry into this use of lethal force by remote control. If this isnât stopped now, theyâll just take it further, and soon every search warrant will be served by a kamikaze robot bomb, under the justification that it will save police lives.
good robot.
You forgot âWhy donât they just shoot him in the leg?â