Discussion: Chance The Rapper Clarifies That He Supports Kanye, Not Trump

Despite all the heat for his comment, it was a tweet of thanks from POTUS that made Chance realize he was in trouble and to start walking back.

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I have no idea who “Chance the Rapper” is, other than his profession, which is indicated by his eponymous surname. I am old, and my epistemological sojourns into pop culture came to an end when my youngest daughter left home. So, I am forced to admit that I don’t know what the fuck is going on here.

Thank you.

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It’s a "Rappers of the World, Unite ! " thing, I believe…

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two days ago (during the Yeezygeddon), Chance defended Kanye, by tweeting this

Now Chance followed it up with this

That aside, you ait missing much

  1. too late Chance

  2. Like Shania Twain is still learning, there’s a big difference tween respecting a decision and that mess from two days ago.

anyhow

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I am old, and … I don’t know what the fuck is going here.

Short version:

  • Kanye West is a hugely influential musician from Chicago whose art has always been about winkingly self-aware sketches of his Trumpily narcissistic asshole self wrestling with his demons, and about his fascination as a black man of lower middle class origin with the formerly-inaccessible American cult of wealth and celebrity. He kinda-sorta wink-wink went Trumper after the election (met with him at Trump Tower the day after the election) and he’s doubled down on that with a series of recent Tweets. Nobody’s really all that surprised about this. Is his heel turn a performance, or is he really that crazy/politically stupid/rich and out of touch? Probably a little of each.

  • Chance the Rapper is his charming and talented hometown protege who derpily defended his mentor/sponsor when all hell broke loose, drew multiple salutory Tweets from various Trumps, and is now probably drawing more shade in the nabe than… Idunno, whatever’s in the vicinity of the Sears Tower at 5 in the afternoon, I guess.

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Too late, Chance, you’ve got the stink on you. Good luck washing it off

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Huh. Amazing how somebody who makes a living artfully putting words together, has to walk back a statement in the media. Maybe he should put as much thought into casual social media posts as he does into his lyrics. With as many followers as he has, a post will spread as fast as his music.

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Thank you for that.

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I much prefer “Chance the Gardener.”

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Boy should learn from what happened to “Killer Mike” and his NRA foolishness.

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I only know about this stuff because I have a 15-yr-old daughter. She likes Chance and will be relieved to hear this. She also likes Kanye’s music but is well aware that he’s an asshole and a narcissist, if that isn’t redundant.

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The only issue I have with this entire debacle is that it seems everyone has to have an opinion or reaction to what an obviously sick malignant narcissist has to say about another obviously sick malignant narcissist. Being a great musician doesn’t qualify you as a political pundit any more than starring in a reality show qualifies you to be president. Kanye is so obviously troubled and suffering from megalomania that it just seems absurd that we need to ponder his take on Trump.Chances comments were, I think, a pretty benign defense of a friend who doesn’t really need defending.

I checked out Kanye a long time ago and didn’t hear much in his work I could relate to or find interesting, not that it matters. But recently, in that series of tweets he did, I’m definitely hearing what’s always indicative to me of a person who naively believes that art and expression are 100 percent about some vague idea of mental freedom and zero percent about discipline. They not only don’t think discipline has any use, they regard it in any form as a pernicious thing that will make your precious but ill-defined “creativity” wither and die. The thing is, if they achieve anything they’re being disciplined, in terms of practice and craft mastery, but they simply don’t think of it as such. It’s not important and I could care less whether he likes Trump or not, but I’m just wondering if that sounds accurate to you.

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More concise, says the same thing. Man is who he’s always been. I respect his work, but I don’t think we’d get along, and that’s ok.

Idunno. I think he’s had to be pretty disciplined to get to where he is (at least up until fairly recently – though his last couple of albums have been pretty crap). But he’s a fabulously wealthy dude and has been for awhile, and he’s a narcissistic asshole with bipolar disorder. Who tends to pop off and grab the spotlight with some kind of antics right before every album release. There’s a lot going on there! Hard to sort it all out. But narcissistic assholes who strike it rich, whether through pure luck or some combination of luck and ability and hard work, always tend to ascribe 100% of their success to their ability and hard work, and 100% of everyone else’s lesser fortunes to their shiftlessness and/or “mental imprisonment,” etc.

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I did say he had to be disciplined to achieve what he has. He just doesn’t consciously value it at all compared to this naive, illusory idea of mental freedom. He doesn’t see a creative interplay between, say, discipline and imagination, discipline and innovation.

Once you’ve been red-pilled like Yeezy, you can just ride the dragon of Intellectual Dark Web J/O videos to enlightenment, I guess.

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