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I once commented here that Ben Carson is a smart person.
I retract that statement.
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you can believe whatever you wantā¦ people believe in the bible or torah or koran or UFOs or ghostsā¦
just because you believe it doesnāt make it true or make it a factā¦
I believe Iāll have another drinkā¦ WC Fields
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Facts and reality and history may indicate that Arab states had no loyalty to Bin Laden, and the truth may be that my comments about this, like on most subjects, are total BS that I really know nothing about. But, I believe otherwise - and Iām Dr. Ben Carson, the former neurosurgeon, and Iām the smartest person in the room and Iām always right.
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Talk about rejecting our reality and substituting his own.
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Carson is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
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āWell, you may think that they did not have any loyalty to him, but I believe otherwise,ā Carson replied.
And THIS is really much of the problem with teabaggers (well, that and racism, sexism, hatred of anything to do with progress, etc.) As far as theyāre concerned, what they believe trumps any bit of actual reality. Any opinion (especially āmineā) is just as good as some other opinion regardless of any sort of proven analysis. You got it, Uncle Ben and thanks for playing.
EDIT TO ADD: This is such a stupid thing to say, Iām not really sure where to begin. Even IF the Arab states were loyal to Bin Laden, they would know that it was nothing more than an immediate bluff on our part and a rather cheap one at that. It would take this country years to be āpetroleum independentā; weāre not talking about some kind scenario that would be available for a long time. Iām not saying we shouldnāt be energy independent; Iām just saying that itās a lot more complicated than Uncle Ben understands and OPEC knows this. Theyāre not stupid by any means.
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Please keep talking, Dr. Carson, it is so interesting to hear your opinionsā¦
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He really did get through college without taking a single core curriculum class, didnāt he?
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Did you realized that Carson has a Masters Degree in Mideast Studies?
No? Well you may not think there is any record of such academic achievement, but I believe otherwise. Absent a qualification, he wouldnāt have any basis to be flapping his jaws, and I canāt believe such bad things about a Doctor!
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Well maybe, but here were no black people in Mayberry.
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This latest is like a teenager ātrulyā figuring out the world between bong hits.
You know, there exists this interesting concept of āepistemology.ā How do we know that a āfactā is truly correct?
For Carson it is really simple. He lays the bong aside briefly, and just freely bloviates before his next hit. His fact-free bloviations, unfettered by research, evidence, or study, those are objective truth for him. Voila!
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I think somebody sampled a little too much of the nitrous oxide in the operating roomā¦
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I think Carson spent too much time in the anesthesia departmentās drug cabinet when he was a surgeon.
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āWell, you may think that they did not have any loyalty to him, but I believe otherwise,ā Carson replied.
There are plenty of things that you believe otherwise. And thatās what scares the shit out of so many of us.
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And thatās the sort of logic that is available to a person who has spiders spinning webs in his brain. And in Dr. Knowlittleās case, itās both tragic and ironic.
And:
On evolution: āIf there is a force evolving to the maximum, why isnāt everything human?ā
On climate change: āIt may be warming. It may be cooling.ā
On āObamacareā: āItās the worst thing to happen to this nation since slavery.ā
On gay rights: āBeing gay is a choice. Absolutely.ā
And on and on____Perhaps he was a decent surgeon, but heās then truly an idiot savant.
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Well, take it a bit further. Letās say the moderate Arab states (I wonder who he considers that to be, btw?) did have loyalty to Bin Laden. And letās further assume that they did actually think we could become petroleum independent overnight (because how hard could THAT be, right??).
Does Carson think that the same people who now canāt combat a ~30,000 strong ISIS were going to sally forth into Afghanistan and capture Bin Laden? Or Pakistan? Neither of which is a major oil exporter?
And how exactly would that have prevented 9-11? They were going to invade Afghanistan preemptively?? That Bin Laden was somehow going to be the USAās #1 boogeyman even as the Bush administration was specifically making him NOT, and ignoring basically all terrorist threats to us in the world?
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Well Iām no expertā¦nor is Carson but hereās my take. Had the USA not entered Afghanistan there wouldāve been no reason for bin Laden to leave. Afghanistan is not an oil exporting nation. So, had the USA used an oil Independence approach itās doubtful there wouldāve been a place to put that lever into that situation. If Carsonās saying the other oil exporting nations wouldāve demanded Afghanistan cough up bin Lased in order to keep oil prices up I think he needs to bone up on all of that. Saudi Arabia was a closet supporter of bin Laden and they run the Middle East Oil show. And of course bin Laden could hide from OPEC just like he hid from the USA and itās coalition. If I was him Iād prefer the former.
I think you have a right to speculate in a debate. But this goes way passed that and is just dumb assed Carson shit.
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I donāt know about Bin Ladenās capture. But it was President Obamaās election that led to Bin Ladenās just reward.
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One more time, we have the chain mail foreign policyā¦āThe facts may show I am wrong, but I believe differentlyāā¦and this guy is in SECOND PLACE in the Clown Show?
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