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Iām sorry, but this asshattery should of stopped after umpteenth time Sen Warren said she wouldnāt run. This sound more like grandstanding by Moveon.org and Democracy for America than an actual push for anything substantive.
āEven without her in the race, Elizabeth Warren and the Run Warren Run campaign she inspired have already transformed the 2016 presidential election by focusing every single Democratic candidate on combatting our countryās income inequality crisis,ā he said in a statement announcing the suspension of the campaign.
Yeah, no. Income inequality has been a hot button subject for years and anyone who didnāt think it would take a prominent place in the 2016 elections is being deliberately disingenuous.
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Good. Iāve been saying all along that we need Warren in the Senate. Folks seem to not know the role she is playing there. I know many folks donāt want Sec. Hillary Clinton. Well I hope they keep their eyes on the prize if she gets the nomination. This is not only about the White House, but also the Supreme Court, House and Senate. If the current Supreme Court makeup doesnāt do it for you, think of one without even a swing vote. I will proudly vote for whoever is the Dem nominee, because to not do so means I want the RWNJs to continue to destroy us. Women and enlightened men know which side supports them and their issues.
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This gang is the epitome of the Slow Learner. She has said āNoā a hundred ways to Suanday for the last year.
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I plan on voting for Sanders in the Primary, and for whoever wins the nomination in the National. I am hoping Bernie gets enough votes to pull Ms. Clinton to the left, the country desperately needs to go left.
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Agreed. Iāll support Hillary when I have no choice. Hopefully she reads the tea leaves and sees that we liberals want to go leftā¦wayyyy left!
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The best feasible way to move the country left is to get a Democrat elected.
So the first question to ask yourself is can a candidate as far left as you want get elected in the first place? If not, then you have to reassess your options. What method will get a candidate as far left as can be elected both through the primaries and left with the best chance of beating the Republicans?
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Sen. Warrenās time will come ā
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Iām voting for Sanders too, even though by the time my state votes, itāll probably be moot, but stillā¦I voted for Howard Dean long after the nomination was settled, so Iāll vote for Bernie this time.
And heās looking pretty good, assuming he can get the votes. Heās pulled in pretty large crowds where heās been going. In NH he was walking down the street when people started to crowd around him and he held an impromptu campaign rally ahead of the scheduled campaign rally, and pulled in thousands of people in Iowa and Minnesota.
Heck, I remember the town hall meeting he held in my city a few years ago and how it was standing room only and they had to set up speakers outside so that everyone could hear him.
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That was silly. Sometimes No really does mean No.
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Income inequality has been a hot button subject for years and anyone who didnāt think it would take a prominent place in the 2016 elections is being deliberately disingenuous.
Anyone who thinks it was a given that income and wealth inequality would take a prominent place in the 2016 elections hasnāt been paying attention to the way the topic was completely kept out of āseriousā public discussion until Occupy, Warren, and others kept bringing it up, again and again and again.
Hell, itās still not a guaranteed issue for 2016. Sure, Bernie (and to a lesser extent, OāMalley) will do their best. But thereās a tradition in the modern Democratic Party of a sacrificial Real Liberal, who sooner or later is elbowed to the side in favor of the ārealisticā inequality-friendly centrist.
The Real Liberal would have been Warrenās role if she ran, which is one of the reasons Iām glad she didnāt. Sheās much more effective in her current job than sheād ever be as the Demsā latest sacrifice.
Dems need a candidate far enough left that people will be motivated to vote for them, not just against the Repub. Because fear-based GOTV efforts work much better for Repubs than they do for Dems.
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Senator Warrenās time is already here, as an influencial and effective United States Senator.
And if the Dem leadership would allow it, sheād make a hell of a Senate Majority Leader. (There will be a Democratic Senate Majority to lead if the party leadership stops pursuing a ācentrismā thatās to the right of most of the public.)
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Amen and hallelujah
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Same here, although the race may well be decided by the time our primary rolls around.
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Except, there are many parts of the country where the Democratic base isnāt looking for a āfar enough Leftā candidate. The Dem base isnāt as homogenous as the GOP base. Itās never made sense to me how the lack of such a candidate would cause someone to just lose interest and not vote.
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I think thatās why a lot of people are flocking to Sanders- heās willing to fight. Democrats are tired of having leaders who donāt want to fight. I mean- itās wonderful to have Reid finally getting up there and slamming the GOP into the mat, but where was that fire a year ago? Two years ago?
My only concern is that Clinton says all the right liberal things but, once elected, drops it like a rock and goes back to her center Right positions. I agree the country needs to go Left; I just donāt believe that she agrees on that.
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And she has said no for good reason. If she ran for President everything she did would be seen as a campaign gambit which would immediately reduce the impact. Clinton supporters in the caucus, i.e. every other member apart from Sanders would immediately have to distance themselves from her positions.
Just look at all the idiot Republicans pushing through red meat policies for their base rather than governing sanely. Walker is leaving a really bad smell in Wisconsin and Jindall looks set to lose the Governorship in Louisiana. Tea Party politics are just not popular.
Should Clinton fall under the bus or otherwise be forced to withdraw, the outcome will be a brokered convention with Al Gore the strong favorite. Warren would definitely be a contender in that situation and a dead certain pick for Veep.
I couldnāt agree moreā¦however sheās still a million times better than whatever GOP candidate wins. The balance of the Supreme Court is at stake for who-know-how-long (a point I kept trying to make in 2000 and 2004 when we had !@#$ Nader pulling votes away from Gore and people lukewarm on Kerry).
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