Discussion: CA Judge Orders Stormy Daniels To Pay Trump Legal Fees For Dismissed Defamation Suit

Avenatti is a grandstanding dumbass and I hope for her sake that Ms. Daniels does not continue to take his legal advice.

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Looks like lights, camera, action for Stormy. Gotta pay those bills somehowā€¦

Knew this guy was a BS artist from day one. The theatrics and showboating are a dead giveaway. Some on here defended him, but in fairness probably due to the fact that he was anti-Trump. But comparisons of him to Mueller and a possible Presidential candidate were just nuts. This guy is a totally self absorbed ā€œuserā€. Which makes him similar to Trump. He not only did liberals no favors, he actually hurts the agenda. In fact, Iā€™d love to see him somehow indicted along with all of Trumpā€™s buddies.

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Sheā€™s actually an award winning producer of porn. Sheā€™s also been touring strip clubs all over the nation, making bank in personal appearances.

Point is, sheā€™s not a ā€˜poor little porn starā€™ā€¦

Btw, I believe that porn is a far more honest way of making a living than politics!

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Yep, a politician will screw you for free!

So do any lawyers have a sense on the fees here, plus sanctions? Usually I thought you only saw that when a suit was pretty near frivolous. Which you have to stretch to claim on this one.

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Oh, but I beg to differ. The politician picks your pocket while heā€™s screwing you. At least you get to have a little fun when you pay up front!

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When you get screwed by a porn star, at least you probably get your moneyā€™s worth. No so with a politician.

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Please describe exactly how heā€™s doing this.

Thank you

Trumpā€™s lawyer billed at a reasonable rate but for an implausible number of hours. The judge gave him 75% of what he was demanding.

Weā€™ll see what happens if thereā€™s an appeal.

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Indicted forā€¦?

Heā€™s our useful idiot, and an effective stalking horse, why lose an asset like that?

Surprised he doesnā€™t bill at a higher rate considering his reputation.

By talking shit all over TV like he was going to kick Trumpā€™s ass, and then losing the lawsuit. I will GUARANTEE you that his contract gave him a nice percentage of what she might win against Trump, but NO protection if she lost. He took her for a ride in the hope he would have a big payday. SHE lost. Heā€™s a POS grandstanding punk.

Thank you.

Heā€™s a very shady character, a potential leaker, etc. Mueller already knew anything Avenatti brought up. He tried to milk it as the ā€œmiddle manā€, and made a complete fool of himselfā€¦at her expense. This guy owes big bucks and was looking to make a killing against Trump to benefit HIMSELF only. Heā€™s a self promoting low life POS. That makes him qualified to be a Republican President perhaps.

Thatā€™s where you want to go? Seriously?

For those who have not followed this story in detail - this is an unfair judgement. Trumpā€™s lawyers trolled Stormy and won.

Do I cry over this unfairness? No. I can however distinguish between fair and unfair.

The judgement is unfair. It is almost double what a normal defense in cases like this would cost. And the argument that this case was different because of Avenattiā€™s ā€œgamesmanshipā€ is spurious. As a lawyer you donā€™t get paid for watching television. Normally. Yet it prevailed. Will Stormy win on an appeal? Likely. Thatā€™s the whole story here.

So, the lawyer and the porn actress with all their shortcomings still more decent than the establishment.

Jeez, thatā€™s 5 minutes too many I wanted to spend here.

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Stormy didnā€™t have a defamation case. Ok I donā€™t agree with that ruling either that Trump can say whatever he wants and it is just hyperbole, but whatever. There is no way the she should have to pay Trumpā€™s legal fees or have penalties. There is no question Trump said terrible things about her and she had a right to take him to court over it. If this stands it undermines the right of a person to defend their own reputation when a powerful person lies about them. I wonā€™t defend her lawyer and I donā€™t have a high opinion of her but no one needs to have the most powerful man in the world calling them a liar and have no right to challenge it in court without fear of financial ruin. It emboldens the rich and powerful to smear their enemies with impunity.

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I said it when this case was first removed from LA Superior Court to Oteroā€™s court, that Otero was BAD, BAD, BAD. Getting out of that Bushieā€™s court should have been item of business one. Check my posts a year ago.

Yet, rather than trying to remand to State Court, doing the hard work of litigating for his client, Avanatti went for the spot light.

Hopefully she sues him for malpractice, what he did in handling her case was IMHO (and iā€™m a plantitiffā€™s lawyer) malpractice.

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If Iā€™m not mistaken Ms. Daniels didnā€™t want Avenatti to sue for defamation. Hope he has the means to pay the judgment on her behalf.

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Avenatti used Stephanie Clifford as he would use a ladder on his road to TV coverage and his announcement fueled by nothing but his overwhelming egotism that he thought heā€™d be presidential material. He needs to pay this judgment if itā€™s not overturned on appeal.

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