Discussion: 'Butch Cassidy' Screenwriter William Goldman Dies At 87

And the 2018 hits keep coming.

R.I.P.

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I always hated “Butch Cassidy” but “The Princess Bride” is a timeless classic. And, yes, “timeless classic” means exactly what I think it means!

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Was going to say, forget Butch Cassidy, dude wrote Princess Bride, now that’s a legacy.

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Exactly. That’s another phrase he’s given popular culture, and I think it’s outlived “follow the money”. That and “never start a land war in Asia”. That one’s ignored by everyone who should know better.

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I don’t understand hating Butch Cassidy. How do you feel about All The President’s Men. or Heat with Pacino and DeNiro. No, don’t tell me.

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Here’s misery. Sunday is the 40th anniversary of the Jonestown massacre, a few days later November 27 the 40th anniversary of the Moscone Milk murders in SF City Hall.

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:oD Too late.

I love both of those movies, especially “Heat”, which I just rewatched on Netflix a few days ago. I just don’t like “Butch Cassidy”, especially that god-awful music score, like the bank robbery scene set to vocals by the Swingle Singers. I literally cringed when I saw that.

I don’t either. One delicious moment I often remember: They’re standing on a train platform in an obvious run-down backwater in Bolivia. Chickens, pigs, a llama. Sundance is furious.

Butch Cassidy: You know, it could be worse. You get a lot more for your money in Bolivia, I checked on it.
Sundance Kid: What could they have here that you could possibly want to buy?

The acting is perfect but just on the page it’s great stuff. There are what—three dozen little gems like that? No accounting for taste, I guess.

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If we had paid him royalties for every line of his that we have appropriated, he would have been massively wealthy.
One of my faves: “Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?”

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The classic blunders!

Mr. Goldman - have fun storming the castle.

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Me neither. Guess I must have a little larceny in my blood because I enjoyed both that movie and “The Sting”.
But for a quirky, feel good movie I always wished Redford’s “The Milagro Beanfield War” had become more popular than it was. If anyone wants to watch it on YouTube in the future:

Not the greatest resolution, but watchable. I watched it for the third time about 2 weeks ago.

Speaking of trains, I’ll always chuckle thinking about Woodcock in the mail car.

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There’s the jumping off the cliff into the water and Sundance’s fear of it because he can’t swim with Butch reminding him the fall would break his neck. Me, I love watching two journeymen actors (who also happened to be humanitarians) acting together.

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Milagro was an excellent film using magical realism before it became a widespread thing, it was underrated and that’s a shame.

Haven’t got enough time to go into why the The Sting is so great, but we know it is.

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I once thought my dislike of the film had to do with the fact I had seen “The Wild Bunch” at about the same time, since they were released the same year (kinda like the year before in 1968, when “Barbarella” and “2001” both came out). So I watched it again when it came out on video years later, and I still didn’t like it. Just does not appeal to me. It has nothing to do specifically with the script, just the movie as a whole. But I agree on the scene in Bolivia, and if I recall Butch says this great line when they get there:

“Just think - 50 years ago there was nothing here!”

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“The Sting” I also loved. I also immensely enjoyed when it won all those Oscars (Edith Head, bitchez!) in 1973, trouncing “The Exorcist”, the most unscary scary movie of all time (although it is absolutely hilarious after you smoke a few bowls of some really great kush).

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Nice to know we were all going to login to say the same thing.

Just saw it again two weeks ago at the Elsinore.

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This is why they make ice cream in different flavors. You don’t like BCSK, you don’t like it. My dad always tried to argue that if you didn’t like a thing he liked it was because you were mistaken, seriously mistaken somehow in your thinking. And I always thought that was absurd so I just shrug.

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Yeah, I know. It’s not like I go up to people and say, “You’re a moron for thinking that movie is great!”, although I have started going up to people and screaming, “You’re a moron for thinking Kanye West is a genius!”

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