Discussion for article #240849
Well, that’ll end what little is left of Bush’s campaign then. Who’s next?
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He should have said it in Spanish. Then the GOP base never would have heard about it.
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It’s easy to take a stand FOR something (DREAM Act), if and it’s a big IF, it comes after an unachievable or a murky never-could-agree-on definition of the limiting condition of border “security”. Show some leadership and promote something unconditionally positive.
Jeb on Faux: What I said was only meant for Dreamers and not for Conservatives/Republicans.
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This is good news for Chris Christie.
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That makes him unelectable to Right Wing Al Quada, aka The Base.
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Bush on Faux, Contd: I am with Rubio and will support his immigration Bill.
He’s right of course but he can’t win the GOP nomination by stating it. He would be a formidable candidate if his brother would’ve passed immigration reform instead of invading Iraq.
Absolutely. The bagger base doesn’t believe DREAMers have any stadning in this country. For the base that he needs to win over, it’s all “amnesty.”
Rump has REALLY poisoned the well for all of them.
And then he said, but I want do anything to help you get that citizenship.
Trump: I will deport Dreamers and Jeb’s wife. I will also ensure Mexico gives citizenship to Jeb so he can be with Dreamers. They can build The Trump wall together from the Mexican side.
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The inevitable walk back commences in 3…2…1…
I know you all are tut-tutting Jeb! right now and it probably does hurt him a bit with the base right now, but, once Trump implodes (and he will) Bush will go back up the polls. He’s saying exactly the right thing for next year. Don’t count him out yet.
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It’s even worse.
The policy is absolutely unpalatable for the base, you are correct.
But him saying this to protesters just reeks of appeasement. To Hispanics.
Either of those is enough to make him unelectable. Both together? I give him precisely zero chance of winning the nomination, assuming every other candidate, including the 20 or so REALLY crazies that we never hear from, don’t die instantly.
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Sorry, but it’s not going to matter. If/when Trump implodes, the establishment will have already moved on to another candidate not named Bush.
Read this piece from the Tampa Bay Times, which is trying to give both favorite sons good coverage:
Rubio is picking up actual chairs and people with actual influence and rolodexs of GOP voters in Iowa and NH. Bush? He gets a guy in Wisconsin, a mobile home dealer in Iowa and some kid attending school at Valdosta State…in Georgia.
Despite his warchest, Bush is bleeding support right now. Statements like this are only going to accelerate that process. Ironically, Bush’s warchest may very well turn out to be the best weapon Trump has.
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I agree with you: JEB doesn’t have a genuine constituency other than the mega wealthy donor GOP class. That’s really all he’s got.
But then, - I go back to the 800lb. question in the room: if not JEB then who? Rubio would make a very good veep. But, not the top spot.
Technically speaking Kasich could fill the spot but he’s just not on the base’s radar.
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Might as well drop out now, dudebro. Hasts la vista!
I think it was here I commented on Kasich’s problem, but it might have been another blog.
Kasich is a walking disaster for the GOP, and I am pretty sure the Powers That Be know it. Its not his temper (which IS a problem), or his acceptance of Medicaid.
Its his continued flaunting of being THE chief architect of the Clinton surplus.
Its a lot of hot air, in the first place. He voted against everything that made the actual budget submitted by Clinton that year possible. Everything. He basically showed up at the last minute and threw a fit until he could get his name on the bill requiring the budget be balanced (which it already was).
And that’s really bad. But it gets infinitely worse when you are running against Bill Clinton’s wife. Not only do they get to kick the crap out of Kasich on the debate stage and on the campaign trail non-stop, they get to remind EVERYONE of how good the Clinton economy was. And how we actually DID have a surplus by following the Clinton agenda. That raising taxes actually DID work. And all the clamoring in the world by Kasich about republican principles of balancing a budget get tossed right out the window by pointing to the next guy in office after Clinton. A republican. Who promptly threw the balanced budget bill in the trash.
And what do they have to pivot the discussion? Foreign policy from an Ohio governor (who can’t even see another country from his state)? Nope, Kasich remained mum for the most part on that during the second debate, where if you are going to state your international credentials, that was the place. Ahh, I know…his stalwart anti abortion stance, where he is promising to sign a bill that would abolish abortions if the reason given is Down’s syndrome.
Yeah…that’s gonna be a REAL winner on the campaign trail.
I think the choice, while far from perfect (who is in this field??) is pretty obvious by process of elimination. Its going to have to be Rubio, and they are going to have to scramble to find someone with more seniority and gravitas to be his running mate.
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rubio. one small step above dan quayle. not a real deep thinker.