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âI donât want this to be personalâŚâ
ââŚwhich is why I attacked Obama personally with falsehoodsâŚâ
Eat a bag of dicks, Sherry.
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Senator BrownâŚyou were wrong. Be gracious about it and say âoopsâ and next time, if you think something might be sexist wait until a woman says something because youâre being just as sexist by insisting you know what is and isnât sexist.
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I really like Senator Brown and all he stands for, but I donât believe President Obama was/is being sexist in his remarks. Iâve heard him refer to other elected officials by their first names. Also, Obama and Warren were friends prior to her even considering running for office.
Please, guys, stick to the topic at handâthe TPP. Thank you.
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Actually, Obama and some of his campaign staff were sexist in 2008. âYouâre likable enough, Hillaryâ
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Which was generous, considering Hillary isnât likable at all.
"Obama and Warren have been locked in an ongoing feud over the TPP. "
Show me what Senator Warren has said to be described as âfeudingâ with the president? In criticizing the TPP she is doing her job as she sees fit. The Obama administration is doing all of the feuding unilatteraly by using cheesy and dismissive language against their critics. This is no doubt designed to let the corporate media know that itâs time to start taking down Warren and other progressive critics. The neoliberal Democrats, like Obama, are about to show their true corporate colors again and it isnât going to be pretty. But this is still not news, is it.
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Thatâs kind of the problem. The personal nature of the attacks are way over the line, and have made a lot of otherwise sympathetic Democrats very suspicious of Warren and Brown now.
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And actually itâs come up a lot in âinsiderâ stories on how the Obama White House works,. And itâs evident in how he relates to his wife in joint interviews.
IMO while not a massive problem it IS a problem and itâs a problem that arises at some fairly important points.Recall the âother Sherrodâ, Shirley, and how reflexively Obamaâs WH jerked her around for a resignation and self-throw under a bus. Obamaâs treatment of Sibelius suggests HE was a problem in the resourcing of the launch. Obama is constantly reflexive in saying, not just of his own wife and of Hillary Clinton by of former governor jennifer granholm, things that direct to their relative popularity and appearance.
Iâm with Senator Brown on this: itâs happened too many times in too many different ways.
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This is still such a manufactured piece of faux outrage being ginned up by all the usual subjects. Morning Joke, Ms. GreenspanâŚthis is who Sherrod Brown and the WH are having to answer to over this tripe nonsense. Talk about TPP and what it will and wonât do for the American workerâŚand get on with doing your fucking job of interviewing over the actual trade deal instead of this Fishbowl DC blather. Its so annoying.
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More pandering to the Kardashian fans who just canât wait to get sucked into this distraction. Itâs the TPP that matters, not this horse shit.
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I think youâve got that backwards. But nice try.
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Letâs stick to the issues, guys.
Is the issue whether Obama is a sexist in general or whether this exchange was sexist?
So if people come up with dozens of examples of the president referring to male politicians by their first name when discussing policy differences does this change your opinion?
Stupid comment. And wrong
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Iâd have to call that snide, condescending and somewhat inappropriate, but I fail to see how the substance of that comment is at all âsexistâ unless and until you start grafting meanings onto it that are not present on its face and/or engage in this game of âheâd never have said that to a man,â which of course is silly, not onyl because thatâs just pure speculation and tinfoil hattery, but also because heâs made similar snide comments towards McCain and Mittens and a whole host of other GOPer men and weâve cheered for it. I remember one particularly good oneâŚforget exactly what it wasâŚbut he did it while speaking at some event right to Cantorâs face and it was glorious. We were all sporting political bitch-slap afterglow for like a week after.
And letâs be clear. Just because he condescended to a woman doesnât mean he was being sexist. Being condescending or a dick is just that: being condescending or a dick. The target having a vajayjay doesnât automatically transform it into sexism. Too many liberals fail at being able to recognize and accept the distinction. It goes to what Iâve been saying about being so predisposed to seeing the â-ismsâ that you actually rationalize your way to finding it even when itâs not there, because itâs almost a badge of honor at this point to manufacture a clever argument that transforms something into an -ismâŚlike youâre showing your liberal bona fides, sensitivity to the issue and oh look at how astute you are for recognizing that âfor what it really is.â Iâm almost as sick of it as the Teatrolls, frankly, because it does nothing but damage our ability to draw attention to the real incidences of the -isms and creates a âcrying wolfâ situation that feeds their ability to downplay and roll their eyes and âpffffffffâ at the real incidences as just more âcard playingâ etc.
Also, I have to agree with whateverdudeâŚIâll probably vote for Hillary and agree with most of her politics well enough and consider her a good candidate and well qualified, but sheâs not what I consider âlikableâ in any sense of the word and thatâs one of her biggest stumbling points.
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Totally ridiculous. This is the most non-sexist president ever,
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Goes to prove how small of a man Sherrod Brown is = namby pamby mfer
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NO becauSE HIS disresPECtuL behavIOr towARDS wHIte wouLD cleARLY illUSTRATe his ANTI-WHITe aGEnda. SHouldNât we BE eVEN NOW for slaverY? DOesnât OBAMAphones and LOBster and FILEt MIgnon and AFFIRmative action count for ANYthing???
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This is a silly issue so now can we move on to a real discussion of what is in the treaty and where the differences are.
Media, please do your work.