Discussion: Brian Schweitzer Doesn't Have Anything Nice To Say About Either Party

Exactly. He should be making fun of the goateed rednecks not the fey southern gentlemen.

How about making fun of the southerners who insist on flying the Confederate flag?

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(D) or not, sometimes you should just keep your pie hole shut, lest you convince people that it’s truly an asshole in disguise.

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Brian’s remark about Feinstein is remarkably unclear and speaks poorly of his thought processes … but if you don’t want to cede the thought-free caucus to the GOTP, ya gotta do something.

BTW, Steve, most every LGBT person I’ve gotten to know was of a conservative bent.

WIth provocative talk like this, I doubt he is seriously running for president. He’s got his media career to promote and he fancies himself as a truth teller. I certainly don’t agree with or appreciate his every utterance, but can’t help but notice the contrast he is drawing between himself and Hillary Clinton. Having watched her on the book tour, she simply refuses to answer a direct question. Her formulations are are designed to reveal nothing.

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He has a point about a certain Southern type. those particularly in the mid-western parts (tennessee, GA, Alabammy). But it’s a softness that comes from sheltering in the bosom of the church and upper strata of small town life.

No one would accuse Wendell Berry or William Faulkner of excessive femininity yet they were great poets with a tender vision. Many great southern men have a deep emotional sensitivity while also projecting acute masculine strength. Leaders like Jim Hunt and Bill Friday spring to mind.

We aren’t all repressed midwesterners after all. Which may be Schweitzer’s frame of reference.

The femininity Schweitzer might be referring to is also found in the fussy primness of Mitt Romney. Slap a middle tennesse accent on him and you would have exactly what Schweitzer is talking about.

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This is a clear case of somebody who’s spent his political career in a conservative small state with an overwhelmingly homogenous population and has concluded that his local popularity is directly translatable to the national stage of an incredibly diverse nation.

It’s a shame, because I think the Democratic Party could benefit from western populists having influence within the party, but they need to be people who can avoid stepping on their dicks. Regardless, Schweitzer has two options with his Cantor remarks: either issue a “heartfelt apology” within 24 hours, or double down on his stupidity.

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This is an emergency measure, and possibly unconstitutional, but I think the time has come for mandatory IQ tests for elected positions. The usual passing score of 65 should suffice.

Me’thinks your sample size is a bit too small.

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See, that’s another thing I just don’t get about this guy. I often hear how he will keep Hillary “honest” and run to her left. From my perspective, this guy is quite a few degrees to the right of Hillary. And courting republicans only reinforces that notion for me.

Like I said, I think he will be running (assuming he does throw his hat into the ring) is merely to get himself more national exposure which he will cash in for talk show somewhere.

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Oh, I think it’s clear enough: Feinstein has been right there with the formation of the info state and only got her buns in a knot when her staff was the target. She was less concerned when it was just the rest of us being spied on.

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It’s so much simpler being a RWNJ pol.

Under the glare of a national spotlight-- it’s difficult for (D) bombthrowers to escape scrutiny.
Don’t get me wrong-- I appreciate the wit of a Grayson or even a pre-meltdown Weiner.
Note how Sen Franken has always been cautious in showing his caustic side as a legislator.

A double-standard to be sure.

Those on this thread decrying Schweitzer as insensitive or worse?
Means you just haven’t looked past the (D) following his name previously.
He’s never not been a loose cannon.

jw1

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The difference is that it’s only now that Schweitzer has clearly indicated national desires that the national media is paying any real attention to him.

I read a fairly long article on him back in early 2007 or 2008 when he was still governor, and there was literally nothing in what he said for the article that indicated he was this kind of loose cannon. The article lauded the fact that he could stroll into a saloon in Helena, put his boots up on the table and order a beer like a reg’lar American and didn’t put on airs.

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Grayson and pre “show my junk” Weiner targeted their bomb throwing, though. This guy doesn’t. He isn’t the guy with the flame thrower that is sent to go take out the enemy bunker. He is the guy with the flame thrower that happens to be an arsonist that just wants to see things burn…enemy bunkers, his own troops…doesn’t matter as long as he gets to bask in the glow of the flames.

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This is show business stuff. Schweitzer was recently on Real Talk with Bill Maher. Media pundit is the direction he is taking. (also think when you’ve laughed at Jon Stewart doing his impersonation of Lindsay Graham as Blanche DuBois.) We have to stop taking such offense at every little thing. Schweitzer is not the enemy. He is not Rush Limbaugh. He is carving out a media career and speaking to a particular white male audience in their own language. Within his milieu he is not conservative – he is a progressive populist – and if he can move his audience away from the grip of FOX et al, that is a good thing.

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Redundant. I mentioned the goatees.

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If that’s truly where he wants to go, that’s one thing. Aiming at a political future within the Democratic Party is altogether different.

If he wants the media thing, he should partner with Mike Huckabee. It would be the new Hannity & Colmes.

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Fair enough-- as that’s about when he came across (pardon me) my radar.

jw1

That’s the objective of every pol now, and is a good chunk of the reason politics is shit.

The fact that the media accepts it without question is why the media is shit.

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If this “gaydar” thing is such an issue, how is it then that so many other “men of the South” are still in office?