Discussion: Both Sides In Ukraine Deny Shooting Down Plane

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No big surprise here. Economies and banking worldwide are teetering on collapse. All this is to misdirect peopleā€™s attention away from that while the oligarchs continue to loot while they can before things blow up.

World: Comā€™on, you guys - itā€™s not like Malaysian airplanes shoot THEMSELVES out of the sky.

Putin: Is normal shoot-Malaysian-plane-out-of-sovereign-airspace-blame-Putin attention whoring by Ukraine tyranny. I vow no interfere except for protect vital Soviet, uh, uh, Russian interests.

Ukraine: Whoā€™s in charge this week? Is it me? Okay, itā€™s me, I go. Tell you straight, American news reporter you: yes Malaysian plane DO fall out of sky and go boom or disappear for no reason. Is like proven science on CNN!

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Bullshit, dear.

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Funny because my sisterā€™s sister-in-law has a friend whoā€™s in banking in NJ. The woman told her that theyā€™re sending all their money to Costa Rica and plan on living there, because the world economy, ours included, is going to go in the tank.

Time for mattress deposits, I guess. :slight_smile:

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This is all prelude for the Second Coming of Elvis.

You read it here first.

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Better check your tinfoil hat, I think it has a tear in it.

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Anyone from Fox News blamed Obama?

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Psst. I donā€™t want to alarm you or anything, but teh gay agenda is the real power behind Agenda 21. Weā€™re coming to glitter the world!

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There are actually three possibilities, Ukraine, Russian-backed rebels, and Russia. Iā€™d say that the Russian-backed rebels are most likely, but remember that the US Navy did shoot down a passenger aircraft in 1988 thinking it was F-14. This happened right when the plane was approaching the Russian border, which is the one fact that makes me wonder about that third possibility.

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Why is TPM running this AP story? There are very many indicators that the Russian ā€œseparatistsā€ fighting the Ukranian nationalists conducted this attack, along with the many preceding attacks in recent weeks. The AP seems to be bending over backwards to forge a ā€œboth sides do itā€ angle. WTF? Hasnā€™t a separatist leader claimed responsibility already? This is shoddy reporting all around.

McCain did already on MSNBC.

Anecdotal stories like yours have no meaning in the larger world.

And you should send word to your sisterā€™s sister-in-law so sheā€™ll know that Costa Rica is part of the ā€œworld economy.ā€

That kind of gloom and doom bullshit is the mark of shallow thinking and overweening paranoia.

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Hey, if she wants to believe that, thereā€™s nothing I can do for her. Must be the pollution or the NJ water. I just thought it was funny that mouse ears was repeating some version of it.

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Itā€™s becoming obvious very quickly that Russia is losing control of the rebel groups in Ukraine.

What a profoundly stupid comment.

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It could very well be Ukrainian (not separatists) forces that shot this airliner down. I humbly suggest not climbing too far out on that ā€˜Russsian separatists did itā€™ limb.

Why would they?

As I said to Avattoir, it could very well be Ukrainian (not separatists) forces that shot this down. Letā€™s not jump to conclusions, thatā€™s the GOP turf.

Why did we shoot down Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988ā€¦?

Could very well be a mistake in a combat zone.