Discussion: Border Wall Edited Out Of Super Bowl Ad Was Too 'Politically Charged'

If only Honest Abe had skipped the theatre and taken Mary to the drive-in that night.

Of course it was legal. What nonsense are you peddling. And of course there was and is a difference between legal and moral.

What is legal, however, is what we can do. Today, we have rules about immigration. These rules were formulated when people began to notice that unlimited immigration was causing problems. Some of those reasons were, by the logic of today, racist, such as the Chinese Exclusion Act.

And as to the “genocide of the native peoples”, that too is another nonsense idea. During the period 1600-1900, the native people were trying like hell to exact genocide on the European settlers. They were just less successful. So, now, there is a rewrite of history to make the successful Europeans feel guilty. I don’t feel guilty about what happened 100-300 years ago. But you go right ahead and feel all the guilt that you wish to feel. History is what happened. Guilt is how we interpret it.

Christ you are a pussy, frightened of your own shadow, terrified of anyone who doesn’t live in your little world.
You left out the fact that Busch was WHITE, so he was A-OK in your book.

BTW - Firesign Theater called, they want their Character Name back.

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Intelligent people like me discuss the law.

Less intelligent people discuss their likes and dislikes.

Very silly people think about race.

Morons consider racism to be a reason for things.

You fall on the bottom rung.

And white morons think they can keep this shit up and win.

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Some of my ancestors were “legal” and others arrived in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. When my ancestor, Pardon Tillinghast, found that some strangers had blocked off a public road for their own use, he went to them to explain that they couldn’t do that. They were religious refugees, who didn’t speak English. He welcomed them, and, in the fullness of time, his daughter Mary married their son John.

Two of their grandsons were heroes of the American Revolution.

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My ancestors came here legally too - because there weren’t any fucking rules about it. That goes for the Bering Straight contingent and the Europeans too.

The travel ban, refugee ban, Muslim ban, whatever you want to call it, affected only the people who had gone through the long, arduous legal process and who were operating entirely inside the law. And if you think the vast majority of those who cross without documentation wouldn’t rather be working with legal status, you couldn’t be more wrong.

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OK, what’s your point? If your ancestors lived near Hartford, CT, perhaps some knew my ancestors.

All of these people were, in the standards and laws of their time, legal. In the standards and laws of today, they would be illegal.

If this happened today, what would you do? I would turn them into ICE.

Your own family?

You are disgusting. You’d elevate The State over your own mother. Breathtaking.

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Yeah, that ban is dumb, and was not done with proper vetting. Trump is learning slowly.

It’s not clear, however, that the ban is illegal. The Executive Branch has a lot of discretion with regard to immigration.

If they have “discretion” to do this, the law is wrong.

Well, that may be. In a civilized society, we change the laws to make them “moral”. In a society of bandits, outlaws, scofflaws, and criminals, persons ignore the laws or conspire to circumvent them.

Note that one person’s moral action is another person totally inappropriate action. Note also that a government of “moral action” is what Christian conservatives are calling for - biblical government. I prefer a government of laws, not a government of men.

The Democratic Party is today aiding and abetting criminals, and is a RICO. It’s one big reason they are losing, losing, losing, in 44 of the 50 states, and why in 2018 they will have trouble keeping 40+ senators.

The Democratic Party should end its policy agenda of breaking the law by pimping for illegals.

So how do you feel about lunch counter protests, Rosa Parks, and Letters from a Birmingham Jail?

And how do you feel about crossing without a signal, going 5 over the posted speed limit, and estimating high on your Goodwill Donations? How do you feel about Willie Nelson smoking a joint in Texas?

How do you feel about mid-western states “accidentally” throwing valid voters off the rolls?

We’re not, you’re wasting your time and your fingers typing this shit.

Those actions are all chosen by persons to attempt to impose their moral notions on the law. In some cases, they have succeeded. Jim Crow laws are gone. Racism is a much smaller problem than it was.

Smoking dope, which I did some time ago, is also an activity many partake of. In CO, WA, and other states, it is now legal.

However, the choice of a political party to endorse and promote illegal activity is wrong. I have never heard a political party say “Go ahead, drive 10 MPH over the limit. Everyone does it”.

I have heard the Democrats say “We are going to help all the illegals break the law”. What IS acceptable is “We will do what we can to change the laws”. I don’t agree with that, but that is what politics is about - writing the laws. Simply stating that the D Party will help, assist, aid, abett, and condone illegals is wrong, period.

That is destroying the moral fiber of the Democratic Party. They should stop pimping for illegals. They should stop assisting sanctuary cities. They should stop trying to prevent ICE from doing its job.

Hopefully by 2018 Trump will have deported the whole bunch of em and the debate will be ended.

1-866-DHS-2-ICE. Turn in an illegal, get them deported. You can get their apartment. Rents will drop.

I really wish they’d make good on their threat.

It would take the country about 3 weeks to go utterly broke. Dallas is in the middle of a major real estate and building boom and there is not one English-speaking building crew in this city.

So have fun.

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Sometimes you speak the truth, but do not have the wit to understand it. The illegals displaced the US workers. 20 years ago, Bob Perry, your friend who also loves illegals and who was the money behind “Swift Boat Veterans”, decided to destroy the US skilled trades workers by bringing in illegals. He made a ton of money, which is why he could run the ads to destroy Kerry in 2004.

Your cluelessness puts you on the same side as Bob Perry. Also Grover Norquist. You and Bob Perry and Grover Norquist. All in favor of more illegals, to drive US wages lower and lower and to break unions. Because you can’t have good wages and unions when there is a virtually infinite labor supply.

US workers want those skilled trades jobs. But the illegals steal them. That’s wrong.

As long as Fox is running the show, yes.

Welcome to a post-national world’s growing pains.