Discussion: Bomb Suspect Was Living With His Mom When He Filed For Bankruptcy In 2012

Not only that, but that sentence had even more words in it!! OH NOEZ! WHAT WILL DO YOU?!? YOU MAY BE FORCED TO ATTEMPT TO COMPREHEND ACTUAL CONTEXT INSTEAD OF RAILING AGAINST THINGS I DIDN’T SAY!!!

No. That’s not what I’m saying. In fact, those things do not appear anywhere in any of the things I have said. Here, let me help you understand the actual things I said instead of the straw men you want to try to set up.

This has nothing to do with honoring this maggot’s feelings. Fuck his feelings. But irrelevant bullshit that distracts and dilutes the focus off of the things he did and the causes behind them is irrelevant bullshit. That he was living with his mom six years ago is irrelevant bullshit. You wanna get distracted by it, you want to make yourself feel superior by belittling a completely unrelated episode, that’s great. You want to try to twist ‘stay focused on the relevant parts of the story and not the bullshit sensationalism’ into ‘am I supposed to honor his feelings’ nonsense, that’s just ducky. You go right ahead and be indignant about shit that wasn’t being said.

Just don’t expect me to see you as anything more than one more idiot to enjoy making look even stupider than you’re managing on your own.

always a good read or refresher:

https://verdict.justia.com/2017/07/07/altemeyer-trumps-supporters

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How do people get this way? Answer: There is evidence that authoritarian followers are more afraid than most people. And also, that they were trained in self-righteousness, and ethnocentric thinking in early age.

Will Trump supporters never change? Answer: Some will, if their personal experience shows them Trump has misled them or caused them grief, such as a loss of medical coverage. And if you anticipate a close election in 2020, these people are worth pursuing. But Trump will blame others, and his supporters will give him the benefit of the doubt more than most people will.

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And so the nature versus nurture debate rages on. I really don’t see how anyone can think that we are simply pre-programmed to be the people we end up being. It seems inherently obvious to me that, no matter what our predispositions may be, our circumstances and life experience must play a factor.

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Yes, great article, thanks!

It’s unfortunately a truism that fear, anxiety, want, envy, resentment, etc. tend to make people more susceptible to extremism, bigotry, nationalism and authoritarian dogma.

When authoritarian movements want to gain control of a society, perpetual arrows in their quiver are fear of the other (and fear in general), economic anxiety (and anxiety in general), political gridlock/chaos, shaping underlying resentment and directing it toward chosen (and often artificially manufactured) enemies, etc.

It’s a painfully ironic truth that, counterintuitively, authoritarian movements first looking to gain control or increase their power can actually HELP their own attempts to expand/consolidate control by: creating political gridlock and chaos; working to deny people health care; opposing programs that promote economic fairness and increase prosperity on a widespread basis; undermining education; attacking workers’ rights; inflaming racial, religious, and other socio-economic tensions; increasing the gap between the rich and the poor; undermining retirement security; weakening ties with democratic, non-authoritarian allies; opposing programs that would create jobs and improve a nation’s basic infrastructure; etc.

Economic imbalance and unfairness, political division and chaos, etc. tend to increase fear, anxiety, resentment and what not, and these emotional states make people (particularly “low information” people who lack accurate information on cause and effect) more susceptible to the divisive, race-baiting, fear-mongering, authoritarian messages being propagated by the very people who worked to worsen and/or create the conditions that caused the fear, anxiety, resentment, etc. in the first place.

In other words, by acting in ways that an objective observer would label as terrible governance, and one might think would doom them to political irrelevancy, authoritarian movements can actually benefit themselves (at the expense of their own country) and increase their power.

That’s one reason why programs and policy which significantly, and across as wide a swath of the public as possible: increase retirement security; expand and improve the quality of health care coverage; provide economic relief to the middle class, working class and poor; promote widespread economic fairness; improve the quality of, and access to, education; etc., etc. are not just morally just, and economically sound programs and policies - they are patriotic, pro-democracy, and anti-authoritarian programs and policies.

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So its all Elizabeth Warren’s fault then.

sing it!!

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It is so true that people can be depended upon time and time again to vote against their own interests. Isn’t it republicans who generally support laws that make filing for bankruptcy harder? Most of the reasons he living in his mother’s basement is because of laws passed by republicans that make it difficult for the middle class and poor to prosper economically.

Later news indicates he’s currently homeless and was living in his Trump-spangled van. Did mama die, or kick him out? My uninformed guess is, she kicked him out, because otherwise he’d have her house.