Discussion: Bipartisan Resolution Will Force Trump To Go On Record On White Nationalists

He’ll sign it becuase he has no problem lying, he literally does it every day. Then at his tax payer semi-funded rally, he’ll spew racist red meat to the same white nationalists, white supremacists, Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and other hate groups and tell them he has their back.

It’s good for history to get the fact we needed to force this “President” to publicly acknowledge if does or does not support white supremecy, but it won’t mean shit to his or congress’ actions.

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He’s not exactly on solid ground himself here in Colorado.

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Yes, he publicly rejected racists with the same passion he apologized for bragging about sexual assault.

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Isn’t that cute. “Saul Alinsky attacks.” You’re such a darling.

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To me, his is one of the heads I most want to see served up on a platter in 2020.

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Skinheads suggest “dwarf bowling.” Trump agrees.

I have to wonder if this bipartisan resolution would be written if it was Marcus Martins that had been killed instead of Heather Heyer?

Should always be said whenever mentioning that rule.

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Which makes it the perfect Trump trap.

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Isn’t it though. And I still contend that nobody ever heard of Saul Alinsky outside of Chicago until the RWNJ’s started using him as a boogeyman.
And I have been on the radical left since 1968.

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Or he signs it, then issues a critically worded signing statement, a la GWB/Cheney, saying basically he will ignore it. Frankly, I’m a bit surprised that signing statements haven’t come out from this criminal mis-administration (i.e. Russian sanctions). Guess you cannot issue them if no laws have been passed to sign.

there will be a signing statement that there are many good Nazis, skinheads and KKK. we need to recognize their role in society.

I don’t love this at all. I don’t see how this is a good move politically, or for the good of the country.

Politically: This just gives all of the people that defended Trump, and of course Trump himself, a big public and official showing that they denounce the hatred of these people. What are they going to do, say no? Come out against it? Of course not! And then Kellyanne Conartist, Sean Hannity’s Propaganda Hour, and Fox and Friends with Putin will all say “look he’s not a racist! See, we told you so”

Country: How will this do anything to help racial divides or the confidence (or lack thereof) in our President’s moral compass? So he signs a bill that Congress forced him to sign. He can also go out and deliver prepared remarks when an adult in his admin makes him. But his off the cuff remarks and unprepared actions show who he really is. How will this change anyone’s mind about him? Instead it will give all of his supporters room to say “look it’s over, let’s move on”.

But in fact, it’s not over. He’s never given a sufficient rebuke, he’s never apologized for his “both sideism”, never apologized for his birtherism, never apologized for going after the exonerated central park five, never sufficiently apologized for any of the bigoted, ignorant, or sexist things he’s said and done for his entire life! Not that I’d particularly believe it if he did, but he shouldn’t be able to just weasel away from these things and say “that was months/years ago”!

Kudos to Democrats for pushing this.

Practically speaking, Trump is corrupt and immoral. He’ll sign anything and deny it.

Republicans no longer hold Christian values.

Even if Trump does sign it, the alt-right will just rationalize his behavior.

What’s the text? Does it just condemn violent white supremacy, so that all the ones “defending themselves” against encroachment on their lebesnraum are OK?

I’m with everyone who thinks that whatever Trump does in response to this is effectively meaningless.

I do believe, however, it’s important for Congress to be on the record on this issue where the president has so abysmally failed.

If he didn’t sign a bill, unless he vetoed it it would become law without his signature. A joint resolution isn’t a law in any case. So why would he have to sign such a thing? What difference would it make?

I don’t recall having heard before about any joint resolution needing signing. ISTR a lot of joint resolutions from the Democratic congress under Republican presidents, but I don’t remember signing them ever being at issue. I may be hallucinating this, but I think that in the late fifties they were described as sense of the Congress measures. Probably a hallucination.