No HacK. TrumP deduced FrOm the CIA brief thaT it didNt happen. AnD, Bolton whOse almoSt as smart as TrumP, knows itâs a False flag. And he wasnât even Briefed. Highly politicized intelligence!
âThey donât know, and I donât know,â Trump said.
And, of course, THIS is the feral trumpers in a nutshell.
If I donât understand something, then no one can understand it.
I think the intel professionals investigating this case are doing so with added relish; Trump has impugned their effectiveness, and heâs made it personal. He forgets that these guys found Osama bin Laden and hit him.
Trump has alienated the intel community with his dismissive and insulting comments, heâs challenged Republicans to put country before party. Defense hawks and national security experts are apoplectic about these revelations.
He has no place to hide, and heâs hardly got a friend in his corner.
Sad to say, but maybe this is what it will finally take to rediscover our sense of national purpose. Not lapel-pin patriotism, but true love for our country, and a willingness to defend it.
The wheels are now turning and grinding.
And I question the emos who have criticized President Obama as a wimp who backed down from going public - they say he lacked the will after Mitch McConnell objected to making the CIAâs findings public back in September.
I believe the investigation was already underway and McConnell entrapped himself and at the very least he will be disgraced and exposed. The trap was laid, and I think more than just Trump will be implicated.
There was a report recently that the Russians hacked some voter databases. The Russians would not do this just to âcreate chaos;â itâs likely they did it with a goal and objective in mind.
Some have wondered about about Guilianti, given his relative quiet. I believe he, and possibly professional dirty tricks artist/ratfucker Roger Stone, was probably a bag man for the Russian go-betweens and is laying low, dreading the proverbial knock on the door.
Truly, we are living in interesting times.
Interesting thought about Giuliani. We already have his own word implicating him. He is stupid enough yet also vain enough to have believed he could have gotten away with being the âbagmanâ.
And before the election Stone practically admitted he was working behind the scenes on some cloak-and-dagger stuff.
GoET, it seems that you, like The Onion, have been killed by Trump. No parody is left.
The one thing I would like to know most of all, is what Stone meant when he referred to âvoter suppressionâ machinery being in play.
I know so sad. Just going to tune out and play Candy Crush for the next four years
Itâs going to be a bumpy ride, but maybe these damning revelations will stiffen the spines of the milquetoast Republicans â and media professionals â who were too willing to go along for the ride in order to advance their careers.
This is beyond mere politics. This is our country.
President Obama fought and took untold grief for eight years to get the country back on its feet; heâs not going to hand it over to a fifth column and a nest of spies.
The important thing is not whether the CIA is right or wrong (although it would be a lot more comforting if the assessment by our primary intelligence agency were accurate). The vital part of this is that Trump dismissed the finding without examining the evidence. That is a VERY dangerous precedent, even though it wonât surprise anyone who reads TPM. Not only has Trump created an unnecessary rift with one of the most important agencies, and given aid and comfort to one of our international rivals, he has shown that mere evidenceâotherwise known as truthâis unimportant to him. That should be very, very frightening to all.
Getting on the CIAâs bad side is never a good thing for anyone. That is a Tom Clancy novel in the making.
I can recommend Candy Crush Soda as being more highly entertaining than regular old Candy Crush.
So now for the next four years we can eliminate Truth from the Truth, Justice, and the American Way of Superman fame. Justice is just now is getting itâs eviction notice.
Iâm working on CC Soda and CC Jelly.
The biggest problem we, as Americans, have is that if you havenât been neck deep in the known, knowable details of the connections between the Trumpzis and Putinâs Russia, itâs truly difficult to grasp the depth and scope of what we already know. And if it is only are focusing on whatever whatever thing is being reported on by Matt Lauer today, the ordinary Americanâs mind is going to recoil in horrified denial from the conclusions that follow from the totality of the available information.
The evidence indicates that, more likely than not, the incoming administration had people actively in contact with, and acting in at least tacit concert with, a hostile foreign power that was attempting to meddle in our election. (And yeah, Jâaccuse, Roger Stone!)
The evidence indicates that many of the memes about Hillary that you still see being parroted by people on the left and the right even to the present dayâmemes that shaped much of the prevailing MSM narrative during the raceâwere being advanced and lovingly nurtured (though not necessarily originated) by people employed by Russian intelligence to troll American social mediaâFacebook, Twitter and, yes, news site and blog comments. (That is, the Russians werenât looking to invent memes and attitudes, but rather were seeking to harden, enhance, inflame, and keep alive memes and attitudes that already existed, a process theyâand, in fairness, weâhave long experience with.)
The evidence establishes that our intelligence agencies have concluded that the email of senior Republican elected and party officials were hacked, just as the email of senior Democratic officials were, but that those emails were not leaked. And this isnât simply a matter of selectively leaking email that the Russians knew would be seized upon picked up by the MSM and by people left and right more interested in having their biases confirmed than in looking at the dates and content critically and objectively.
The fact that the Russians did not leak Republican emails is not simply significant because it establishes that they were actively seeking to push the election toward Trump. Rather, it strongly suggests that the Russians are sitting on a trove of communications that would, at best, be inconvenient and, more than likely deeply embarrassing, to key Republicans. (Because, come on, every trove of thousands of emails contains such communicationsâalways, every time. Ask any litigator involved in a corporate, intellectual property or divorce case about how that works.)
And knowing that the Russians have stuff they havenât released, consider the the incontrovertible evidence establishes that Trump, Flynn, Christie, McConnell and other senior Republican elected officials were aware of this as early as August and no later than mid-September. Consider how, rather than putting country first, McConnell and other senior Republicans, actively, and apparently with some heat and considerable threats, moved to suppress that information and prevent its release prior to the election. Consider how, even now, senior RepublicansâMcConnell, Conryn, Ryan, the entire Trump circleâare trying to pooh pooh, denounce, attack, discredit rather than expressing the slightest concern. ]
Consider, too, how the two Trump boosters who were former U.S. Attorneys with close contacts inside the NYC FBI office, and one of whom sat in on intelligence briefings with Trump, removed themselves from the running for cabinet appointments. Christie and Giulianiâs hunger for power and prestige and high office were palpable. Indeed, thereâs every sign that Giuliani was instrumental in orchestrating the Comey Coup. Both were considered leading candidates for Attorney General or Homeland Security. And yet, after Trumpâs win, we learn that neither was offered the AG or DHS position and that both of them withdrew themselves from consideration of any other position in the Trump Administration. Gives one to furiously wonder what their old pals in the Bureau may have whispered in their ears, doesnât it?
Worse, still, there are at least a few straws in the wind suggesting acts that there are still classified, things different from, and possibly worse than, email hacking, email forgery and leaking, worse than using the entire Kremlin troll factory apparatus (a thing many continue to refuse to believe exists despite being well documented) to spread false information and pile on, if not start, the social media bullying campaigns to silence pro-Clinton voices.
And the problem we now have is that if you donât have your hands on all of this stuff, havenât followed it closely, you arenât going to want to believe it. The few people who regularly embrace fantastic conspiracy theories, merely by being crazy and often vicious, create resistance among normal, decent, politically unengaged people to accept evidence of real conspiracies when they happen, especially when the facts are so outre, so beyond the normal experience of normal people. And particularly when, if true, they threaten upheaval and discord and peace of mind.
And in that regard, notice that I had to hotlink to a random guy on Twitter rather than some MSM story at the Times or WaPo that gathered up all of the blatant, public strands of the Trump/Russia connection. Notice that no one in the MSM has put the election meddling by Russian intelligence services into this context other than a vague, one sentence reminder. In MSM world, each of these stories are âold news,â stuff âwe already knew,â because each of them was separately reported in a separate story. Thatâs a form of bias that reporters have, in action: the belief that people know what reporters know because, hey, they reported it weeks ago. There are a lot of people in the MSM who know about all of the stuff in the tweetstorm, and that knowledge is, at some level, affecting their reporting, but they donât see the need to recap or round it all up, because, itâs Old News.
In some ways, we are ahead of the curve on where, say, the Watergate story was at this point in 1972. But the MSM is a hollow, degenerate shell of what it was in 1972, reduced to a profit center of gigantic conglomerates, budgets slashed, editorial focus perverted by the quest for the eyeballs of the lowest common denominator viewer. And this time, thereâs every reason to believe that the incoming Congress, the FBI, and the NSC is going to be run by co-conspirators and the DoJ by a rabid partisan with the kind of personal fealty to the incoming president we used to associate with dictatorships.
We are going to have a very difficult time getting Sensible Centrist Moderatesâpeople desperately trying to normalize Trump, make themselves believe that maybe it wonât be that bad, that heâll be constrained by institutions and checks and balances, because they want to get on with their lives --to understand this and believe it. And weâre going to have a government bending all of its will and powerâand power defined in the broadest, most amoral, unethical, crude termsâto suppress the truth.
So in one sentence Trump claims that there was no Russian interference in the election, and in the next he says the FBI and CIA canât agree on why Russia interfered with the election.
Good thing his supporters arenât looking for consistent logic.
Honest to GodâŚthis from the âpartyâ that insists that they âinvestigatedâ the Red Scare because of the weak kneed Democrats that sympathized with the Soviets. The âpartyâ that was still worried about them under Reagan. The âpartyâ that sniveled about the Kenyan socialist for 8 years. The ones that just 4 years ago whined about how naĂŻve the Dems were when Romney called them the number 1 foreign threatâŚand now? They are our besties and not only would they never do anything to hurt us but all this nervousness is just so much bunk.
Millions of people have been brainwashed. Rush Limbaugh trumps Jesus and itâs a sin to support a Democrat. So even if we are infiltrated by Russia thatâs better than a Democrat.There is some hope though.
GOP members supporting investigation of Russian interference in election
Sen Graham
Sen McCain
Sen Lankford
Sen Corker
Rep McCaul
Incredible, isnât it? Thatâs why I hope this investigation is allowed to proceed. We canât let the reactionary Republicans claim some monopoly on patriotism if they allow a corrupt dealmaker with ties to the Kremlin be installed president.