I will admit that I was angry with Bill Clinton when he confessed to the world about his affair with Lewinsky. Having said that, there are major differences between what he went through then vs. what is going on now with the investigation with Trump.
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The investigation started with Whitewater. Since they couldnât find anything to make a case against Clinton, they decided that he âliedâ to special counsel, which is what brought up the impeachment charges against Clinton.
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Clinton managed to keep his mouth shut during the investigation, while Trump keeps tweeting about his, which only makes him more guilty in the eyes of the general public.
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As bad as what Clinton did, it didnât amount to treason (consorting with a foreign country to derail an election).
I know the MSM is making a big deal of this on twitter, but I had no problem with Clintonâs answers. Consensual affairs should not be a part of the #metoo discussion. He publicly apologized to Lewinsky. He didnât need to privately discuss anything with her. The affair was just that, an affair. Starr tried to criminalize it and was wrong to do so.
What the fuck does an affair between two consenting adults have to do with #metoo? I remember some of the details of the affair and how it began. Monica said she was the aggressor, I remember her talking about a time when she hiked up the back of her suit jacket to expose her thong to him. She was a willing participant, and I hate that a consensual affair is being lumped into sexual abuse and harassment and treated as if theyâre all the same. Itâs not. Both Clinton and Monica were wrong to have gotten involved while he was married, but itâs ridiculous and frankly a little demeaning to women to suggest she was a victim. The only victims in that whole mess weâre Hillary and Chelsea and Monicaâs parents.
⌠considering the way his investigation was handled President Donald Trumpâs improprieties are not being given the âcoverage you would expect.â
This, millions times.
Why in the name of the good Christ is there a freaking article about Bill Clinton and Monika Lewinsky on TPM?
This is news- 20 goddam years ago.
Iâm a little tired of the sanctimonious BS going on today with the âmediaâ. Mika went insane on Morning Joe about Cinton to Trump and how Bill and Hillary are to BLAME for TrumpâŚof course, there was Bush and Obama in between but NOâŚBill should NEVER be listened to again and Hillary needs to shut upâŚit was an incredible display of BS. Joe nodded right along. Gillibrand is still bitching. Honest to God.
Somebody else asked basically the same question about why are we reading about another half assed tweet from the twit in chief first thing in the a.m.
Itâs the weekly dose of negative Clinton press (her or him) to replay the narrative for the mushy middle that didnât vote - or jumped the shark - that well yes, gee this might be chaotic - but remember what we could have had instead - but not in a good way.
JoMika worry about ratings. Gillibrand worries about her next election. Everybody else commenting dramatically is worrying about something. The Clintons are simply some meat upon which their worries publicly feed.
(no credit goes to the Clintons for giving their enemies so much protein to chew on.)
Thatâs really rich coming from two of Trumpâs biggest 2016 cheerleaders who let him call in everyday and even spent NYE with him at Mar-A-Lago.
Itâs lazy journalism, comparable to grabbing potato chips when thereâs a meal with protein in it available.
The President of the United States having an affair with a young unpaid intern who worked for the him is NOT a âconsensual affair.â It was a powerful boss with a many year history of being a sexual predator taking advantage of a very young naive employee.
And look what then happened to Monica.
Clinton was and is a disgrace and he should have resigned.
Youâre absolutely right, Bill was 100% wrong for the affair obviously (and he has other cases against him), but the Starr report makes the circumstances of that clear. Monica wasnât a helpless victim, she was fully aware of what she was doing and she aggressively pursued and seduced him, and sheâs even said this herself. Itâs nothing like all the allegations against Trump.
Seeing the adulterers on Morning Joe this morning excoriate Bill Clinton was an adventure into hypocrisy rarely displayed since the resignation of Clintonâs two most powerful opponents, then House Speaker Newt Gingrich and his chosen successor Bob Livingston, both of whom were engaged in secret adulterous affairs at the same time they were prosecuting the Clinton impeachment.
I find it fascinating that so many folks here are willing to give Clinton a pass. It wasnât just two âconsentingâ adults. It was the President and an intern.
Donât forget about Dennis Hastert too!
Thanks! I certainly wish I could forget about Hastert.
Do you know why an intern was working on a temporary basis in the WH? Because Newt Gingrich, hypocritical adulterer and at the time Speaker of the House, brought about a government shutdown. And why was he in such a pique to go so far as to shutdown the government because of lack of agreement on a budget? Because he didnât like the seat he had on Air Force One.
Thatâs because I remember the details. Back then, despite being 2.5 years younger than Monica, I remember being enraged that her sexuality was being dismissed, that she was being treated as a victim and a child when she was a grown ass woman who made a grown ass woman decision to get it on with the president. I was her age at the time, so I understood exactly where she was coming from. Most of my girlfriends did too. There was something so sexist about pretending as though she didnât have sexual wants and desires and the kind of cunning to make a play for the most powerful man in the world. She wanted the president and she shot her shot. Thatâs not abuse of power.