If you are this indecisive about running for president, perhaps you shouldn’t. (As Biden should know, that is a job that demands lots of decisions with complicated and long-lasting consequences, often with only less than desirable choices.) Run or don’t run. Hardly anyone is going to beg.
That sounds like somebody that is running to me.
Biden And Harris. Would love to see that. I feel that for any candidate, their potential running mate is far more important now and earlier in definition than before. However, considering Harris is running, it might be iffy to get that.
Otherwise, Joe, don’t.
Age 78 in 2020. Even Bernie’s younger. There’s no clamor for either of them.
Just. Don’t.
Maybe some clamor, but this dithering isn’t a good look for Biden. (It isn’t as if he has to weigh giving up some other position to run, other than private citizen.)
Would Harris even want VP? I suspect that if she doesn’t get the nom, she might be more interested in AG or State.
There are worse gigs than being vice president to someone who is almost 80. On the other hand, I don’t think that she needs him for credibility.
Gut feeling, she would be a fool not to take on that role. I said previously, Obama and Biden started a different POTUS\VPOTUS relationship than those who came before. Expand on that and not make VPOTUS the spare tire in case of emergencies. Be a team with each having real traction.
Actually, Bernie is a year older.
Harris as Veep candidate: Never, not going to happen. She’s too smart, too ambitious to tie her fortunes to a guy who’s shelf life has expired and a guy who was paid $200,000. in 2018 to speak on behalf of a R candidate for the House from PA who went on to won. The oppo ads will write themselves over this.
Edited: House candidate from MI, not PA. Biden remains unapologetic.
People are clamoring for each. Today Political Wire reported “A new Morning Consult survey of Democratic primary voters finds Joe Biden leading the Democratic field with 29%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 27%, Kamala Harris at 10%, Beto O’Rourke at 7% and Elizabeth Warren at 7%.” These data are fairly representative of other polls.
I’m not. Much as I love Joe, (1) he has the fuck-up gene; (2) Turning 80 is simply too old. Insurance actuary tables have Bernie dead within five years and Joe is a year younger. Look at how healthy, robust 47 year-old Barack Obama aged - in two years, four years, eight years. It is time for the torch to be passed.
Talking about either of them ignores the talk of going after younger voters as well as the talk of jettisoning the current “old” D members of the senate.
Joe’s being carried, I believe, by name recognition. Bernie too. I don’t want to lose Harris as my senator but I think she’ll carry the necessary demographics as Obama did in order to win.
Exactly what I was going to say. And 82 before his first term is finished.
I’ve posted this before, and no doubt I’ll post it again, but here’s a list of all the Presidents who took office over the age of 60, and the age at which they took office:
Donald Trump - 70 years, 220 days
Ronald Reagan - 69 years, 349 days
W. H. Harrison - 68 years, 23 days
James Buchanan - 65 years, 315 days
G. H. W. Bush - 64 years, 222 days
Zachary Taylor - 64 years, 100 days
D. Eisenhower - 62 years, 98 days
Andrew Jackson - 61 years, 354 days
John Adams - 61 years, 125 days
Gerald Ford - 61 years, 26 days
Harry S. Truman - 60 years, 339 days
Every President who took office at, or over, the age of 64 either sucked or died in office. Poor Bill Harrison barely lasted a month.
Now women tend to live longer than men, so maybe a female President could handle the rigors of the job at an older age. But, if we go by history, then any men who will be 64 or older by the time they take office probably shouldn’t run.
Yes. Not to mention the attitude in some corners of the party of these “younger” candidates, most of whom are older than when Obama won.
Biden said that he’s “very close” to making a decision.
No, he is not close. FCOL, he decided to run long ago.
This Everyman is from Scranton, PA with a decades-long stopover to live like the drawling aristocrat he actually is in Greenville, DE, a place famed even in an affluent area for the hoit of its toit. Clearly he wants to be begged to run because only he can save us. The appeal of that approach is wearing mighty thin in recent years but whatever, Joe, be sure to let us know when you make up your mind, we’re on pins and needles here.
On the Democratic side, being a front-runner is more of a curse. The past 47 years is littered with one-time front-runners. Neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama started out as front runners.