Actually, I think when he looks in a mirror, what he thinks he sees is Che Guevara.
I think that is what the bros canât handle. They have mommy issues.
Youâre more right than you think. This is what Sanders wrote in 1973:
âHow absurd: all of life is one and if we want to know, for example, how
our nation can napalm children in VietnamâAND NOT CAREâit is necessary
to go well beyond âpolitics.â We have got to get into the areas of
feeling and emotion, pain and loveâand how people related to each other
and how people shut off their feelings. And all of this takes us way
back to our mommies and to the way they dealt with us when we were
infants.â
Bernie Sanders is putting the blame for the use of napalm in Vietnam ultimately but squarely on âour mommies.â
Ironically, he wrote this in 1969:
âThe Revolution is coming and it is a very beautiful revolution. It is
beautiful because, in its deepest sense, it is quiet, gentle, and all
pervasive. It KNOWS. What is most important in this revolution will
require no guns, no commandants, no screaming âleaders,â and no vicious
publications accusing everyone else of being counter-revolutionary.â
And hereâs the tell:
âThe revolution comes when two strangers smile at each other, when a
father refuses to send his child to school because schools destroy
children, when a commune is started and people begin to trust each
other, when a young man refuses to go to war, and when a girl pushes
aside all that her mother has âtaughtâ her and accepts her boyfriendâs
love.â
For young Bernie, the revolution wasnât just about stopping the war
or living on communes or ending the soul-sucking horrors of becoming
educatedâit was also about getting into the pants of that young girl to
give her some of his âlove.â Flipping the bird to her uptight
middle-class mother was just a bonus.
Yes. Well said.
Let add something, though. If you want to understand one of the main points of anger, look at what really brought Bernieâs campaign up into the spotlight: Free college for everyone.
Thatâs huge. Not being able to afford college these days is a death sentence on having a life, a family and a career. The United States has over $1 trillion in college debt currently (itâs actually closer to $1.2 trillion, if I remember the numbers accurately). That is beyond staggering.
Itâs wrong, nobody wants to talk about it, and it is a critical social issue that needs to be fixed. Not even âOh, gee, it would be nice to do something about that,â it is a critical infrastructure problem to our society and our economy that NEEDS to be fixed. And fast. Not âmaybe sometime in the 2030s.â
There are other issues, but that is fundamentally what launched Bernie. And then he went all shotgun on a bunch of other issues to keep his name in the spotlight ⌠.because he doesnât have a coherent plan to deliver free college for everyone.
There are certainly other issues that can be pointed out (a rational job market that isnât a police state, healthcare, ending large tracts of the failed drug war, affordable housing and having a stable place to live a life, etc.). And these are just some of the domestic highlights.
Where Bernie has really gone over the edge is in pretending that nobody is trying to solve any of these problems, and pretending that solutions that other people have been working on for decades are suddenly his ⌠or irrelevant while he casually promises unicorns.
There is a lot of anger, and easy to understand if you consider it for a few minutes. Itâs just that Bernie isnât offering solutions that exist in the real world, and heâs vacuumed up a lot of low-information children (in mind & body) who canât be bothered to logic the way through the mechanisms to accomplish these solutions. They just want to hear âProblem solved. Everybodyâs gonna get laid.â and then not have to actually work for or pay for it.
I tried posting the NYT article to facebook, but guess what happened? The powerful headline of the article âSanders isnât afraid to harm Clintonâs Bidâ was lost, and the frst line of my post read something about DWS being such a meanie⌠WTF!?!
Indeed.
He really wrote this? O my god. Thatâs the worst blather I have ever encountered from a wannabe revolutionary.
Where Bernie has really gone over the edge is in pretending that nobody is trying to solve any of these problems
Itâs consistent with the heroic iconoclast warrior/preacher image he has of himself. Heâs never been a coalition-builder; after he left the mayorâs office for Congress, he refused to endorse or work with the progressives he left behind in Burlington. And when a member of the local progressive press pressed him on why, Sandersâ response was âGo fuck yourself.â
He really wrote this?
The notion that heâs been âfully vettedâ by the MSM and that the Republicans wonât be able to lay a hand on him because heâs so fucking righteous is comical.
This was a smart, well thought-out statement from Joe Biden, playing the âelder statesmanâ / âabove the frayâ role, and playing it well. Nice job, Joe.
I have always known that but o my god.
Thatâs about all I can say - if he wasnât 14 when he wrote it, god help us all.
serving in the Senate,
Some idiot Sandernista was castigating Boxer here yesterday for being a do-nothing non-progressive shill, in obvious ignorance of the fact that sheâs been consistently one of the more liberal members of the Democratic caucus, with a record that in a variety of waysâespecially wrt to Iraqâis notably more progressive than Clintonâs.
Iâm going to get a nice hit of endorphins at the Y pool today, and Iâll be able to cope with unfolding hysteria. Itâs making me nuts.
littlegirlblue - thatâs a good idea. This is the 4th presidential election Iâve followed online. I was furious for most of the Bush Administration. I cried for 4 days nonstop when Kerry lost.
I finally got offline and stayed off until I felt like I could put it in perspective. The internet is not a reflection of the reality of the country we live in. Itâs not worth it to get upset about what you read online. Honestly. I was trying for months to tell Bernie supporters this so they wouldnât do what theyâve done to themselves = start believing the bubble logic where everyone agrees with them and they think things are like they are at Salon allllll over America.
They are not.
Itâs ok. Bernie is over, Trump is toast, Hillary is the next president.
AlrightâŚletâs address the between the line message here.
The mere fact that Biden is making this statement is sending the message that he IS worried about party unity, and specifically, that the cause of the disruption sits squarely on Sandersâ shoulders.
And, the actual words used here are poorly chosen, in my opinion.
"Thatâs not Bernie,â
NoâŚthis is precisely Bernie. This is exactly the same sort of tactic we have seen time and time again. Gets caught stealing voter data from the DNC database? He uses that launch a lawsuit, fund raise and start attacking the DNC for treating him unfairly.
Gets caught with 2 of his senior aides playing agent provocateur inciting a riotâŚa riot, lets remember, because he failed at overturning the February election resultsâŚhe uses that to launch into even stronger rhetoric condemning the entire Democratic party as corrupt and cry for his supporters to wrest the power from every Democrat in the country.
It is exactly Bernie. And I think, in hindsight, we made a grievous error by not lowering the boom when he got caught stealing data and impersonating union leaders. Instead, we treated him with kid glovesâŚbarely even a scolding in the first and not a word in the secondâŚwhich wasâŚrewarding bad behavior. So he has continued with it.
Fundraising on false claims of endorsements. Going extremely negative after he sworn not to. Trying to create faux endorsements and photo ops with the Pope, trying to negotiate a debate with Trump back in March on Fox. Over 600 pages of campaign fiance violations for April aloneâŚon top of over 200 pages of violations for March. And why shouldnât he? He is suffering no personal negative consequences for his actions, quite the opposite.
This veiled message will be entirely ignored by Bernie. He has long known that the White House is going to come out against him, and has already factored it into his plans. He has zero respect for the Democratic leadership, instead he has outright disdain. Remember, he was publicly advocating that Obama be primaried in 2012.
Yeah I agree itâs precisely Bernie, daveyjones64. But I also think itâs probably for the best to let him run in ever tighter circles until he bites his own ass.
He isnât helping that situation since apparently Bernie believes that shit too.
I have never liked him but I did not realize what a nasty vindictive person he is. I knew he was grumpy and devoid of humor but shit, those are his good characteristics it turns out.
Yes. Letâs look at that, because it is quite revealing of a few âconventional wisdomâ pieces that have been floating around.
Hillary already had her plan for dealing with the expense of college put together. Bernie took a look at it, and decided to go from âdebt freeâ college to âfree collegeâ entirely. It didnât take a rocket scientist to look around and see that his version of the OWS message was going to be most effective at college aged peopleâŚso he took a Hillary point and wrapped it up with pixie dust and promised them free college entirely. Sort of like going into a rural agrarian area and promising 40 acres and a mule for everyoneâŚfor free!
So here is a first memeâŚSanders pulled Hillary to the left. NoâŚactually, Hillary pulled Sanders to the left on this, as he went from no plan to devising a plan that would be specifically to the left of Hillary.
That meme continues on other issuesâŚmost notably guns but also BLM, where it took BLM protesters taking over his stage on at least 2 occasions, for Bernie to decide to get on that bandwagon, too.
Want more proof that Sanders is merely pandering for nearly all of his key positions, including the free college one? As a sitting Senator how many times has he submitted a bill for free college? Precisely zero. Same in the House. His âToo Big to Failâ bill,that he introduced is a nice sounded title with absolutely no substance within. Numerous actual financial regulators have come forth and said the same thing. When presented with a question about one of his core campaign planksâŚhe reveals he hasnât a clue about either the actual law, Dodd/Frank,or about how to actually go about breaking up a bank. Zip, Nada.
All of this is to point out one of the second misconception, âconventional wisdomâ memesâŚthat Bernie is âauthenticâ, above politics as usual, a âreal guyâ. Nothing of the sort. It reveals that Bernie is as much of a panderer as the next one, if not more so. And he puts almost zero effort into learning about the issues that make him so âauthenticâ. Why? Because they are merely vehicles to get him votes.
Concise and to the point.
I have seen this in Latin AmericaâŚthe whole âjefeâ syndrome has some parallels in this. This is why I love the spunk of people like chammy, yourself and others here.
With these fuckers, sometimes one has to say,
âSin que ni para que (without rhyme or reason)
But you have used up your minutes with MEâ
O my god yes. They run totally fantasy based campaigns. But it makes sense the MSM would find that authentic since they run fantasy based news outlets.
This is not snark. Once the prohibitions on lying were weakened, the ânewsâ became âcartoons for people over the age of 12â