Discussion for article #241466
âThe bottom line on the Politico story is that it is categorically falseâŚâ
Said the Biden campaign. And almost everyone else who has ever read a Politico story.
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The story was characterized in the most damaging way possible. So what if Biden spoke with Dowd? Would his speaking of his sonâs wish and his desire to fulfill it be so terrible? Why must everything be turned into poison? There was no purpose for this story except to smear Biden. And on whoâs behalf? They imply the Clinton campaign would stand to benefit â but I donât think it would serve them to attack Biden in this way. No â Politico functioned as a propaganda arm of the GOP in this case to make sure any viable democrats are damaged goods.
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What about Maureen Dowdâs claim? I saw Karen Tumulty of the Washington Post on Andrea Mitchellâs show today claiming âtheyâ (members of the press) believed Biden had actually discussed this with Dowd. Someone is lying
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Two MAJOR problems with the sourcing of this âstoryâ.
Politico.
Maureen Dowd.
'nuf said. Itâs birdcage liner. Nothing to see here, referee says play through. If or when Uncle Joe decides to make an announcement - whatever that announcement is - why on earth would he make it to MoDo of all people? I mean, you ask us to suspend a lot of belief in the name of âjournalismâ these days, but come on. That would be akin to him calling up Limbaugh and giving him the exclusive scoop.
Swing and a big miss. You know when Iâll believe something VP Joe said about this? When I see Joe in front of a camera saying it.
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Iâve said from the very beginning, who it would benefit the most from a late entry into the Dem race of VP Biden the most, is every damn one of the GOP candidates in their field. Because every one of them is losing to HRC in polls.
Been saying that for a couple of months now. And we all know both Politico and MoDo to be very handy and very reliable mouthpieces for the GOP agenda.
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Media members typically close ranks in the face of criticism.
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Yes, because gawd forbid they are found to be wrong!
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Thereâs no way to see this as anything but a trial balloon. I assumed back when the Times published Dowdâs scribblings that Joe Biden had told her the story, and that he expected sheâd print it (why else talk to her?) â so how could that have been anything but a trial balloon?
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As far as is known there were no other people in the room, just the vice president and his son. Beau was dying, Joe was of sound mind and body, and Dowd ran a story describing Beauâs last few words. Somebody gave it to her, and if it wasnât a trial balloon, it was an awful exploitation of the younger Biden.
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Because she is influential and widely read, like it or not. I read it on the day it ran and there was no escaping the suspicion that Mr. Biden leaked it for purposes of a trial balloon. And I donât say that to be judgmental if in fact itâs what he did. But it was a way to test the waters without committing, and some people took the hint and formed committees to urge him to run. They are behind whatever push there may be
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Agreed. First of all itâs not at all far fetched to think Beau would make a dying request for his dad to run for President. In fact itâs more far fetched to think he would not say that. At that point, using a true event as a trial balloon is fine.
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Why would VP Biden talk to Maureen Dowd anyway. He had to know that she is the most rabid anti Hillary person writing for the NY Times. I also never believed that VP Bidenâs son said run because of Hillary and Bill Clinton. I think that was something Maureen Dowd made up. I think the last thing on Beau Bidenâs mind when he was dying was the Clintons. Not to be melodramatic, but I donât think that Beau Biden while he was dying made his dad promise to run for POTUS. If Beau Biden said that to his dad and I am sure it was true it wasnât at his deathbed. It was probably sometime when he was more lucid and was of sound mind days before he died. I am sure what was on Beauâs mind if he was at all lucid, because at the end they give you a lot of drugs, was saying good-bye to his loved ones or his loved ones saying good-bye to him.
I donât think Dowd has ever had a nice word about the Clintons. Karen Tumulty is not in the position to speak truthfully- or nicely- about Hillary because itâs not in her job description at the WAPO
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Yeah, right, and Bernie Nader really is going to make good on his promise not to run as an independent if he doesnât get the nomination.
She is an overpaid sow who probably thinks her scribbling career is too big to fail at this point.
So you believe all of the negative inferences about Biden made by the Politico story, but not the central factual claim - i.e., multiple people said that Biden told them the same thing - that laid the foundation for the Politico story?
Interesting.
damn, kornacki did a bit of a hit piece on biden. he did the plagiarism scandal, showing extended clips and then spending considerable time going into the weeds about what happened. and then brought it up to date with todayâs developments. he also highlighted modoâs role in both episodes. but very surprised at the tone.
I watched it. This is Kornackiâs delivery style. He treats everyone the same.
The cable media seems to run everything through the loony rightwing clown filter instead of any rational judgment before assigning news value these days. Why they could have just as easily pushed the imaginary ânewsâ envelope further and said, âBidenâs Secret Ploy for an Earth Orbit Inaugurationâ couldnât they, long before MoDo finds shag carpeting or Earth tones lurking near her bag of cannabis cookies?