Discussion: Bernie Sanders: 'We Would Lose' If The Election <span style="line-height: 1em;">Were Held Today

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Sen Sanders, though I’m leaning toward HRC with a good tilt at present–
your presence in this campaign-- win or lose-- has a value to us all.
Fight the good fight sir.

Later Saturday, Sanders and O’Malley were to participate in a criminal justice forum in Columbia.
One Republican hopeful, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, was also scheduled to attend.

Hopefully there will be some video of this event.

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I’m not sure why this is a news story other than that most politicians wouldn’t have the courage to say this regardless of how obvious it may be.

In any case, I agree that Senator Sanders has been a ray of sunshine in an otherwise dreary, miserable primary season (by which I’m referring to the other side).

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It’s refreshing to hear a candidate be candid about his or her own campaign. I think Sanders is a realist, and knows that his election is a long, long shot, but hopes that he can change the needle on what’s possible in American political discourse. And I think he’s succeeding, especially as his emphasis on bread and butter issues, and on issues of fairness, stands in sharp contrast to the not-so-crypto-fascist spew coming from the Republican side.

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There he goes speaking the unvarnished truth again. I hope he picks up a lot of “steam” and rolls over HRC. She’s just another in a long line of corporatists.

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Of course he would lose the primary in South Carolina – and for that matter the primaries and caucuses in most of the country – if those elections were held today. We all know that already, and I would have thought it would go without saying that Bernie knows that too, given that he’s neither illiterate nor insane, nor living in a bunker. So, what is the point of this story? That when you ask Bernie a question he tends to tell you what he actually thinks? Didn’t we already know that too?

Can’t help but note that TPM for some reason found this “story” newsworthy, but didn’t bother covering Bernie’s remarkable speech the other day in Georgetown, not even with a wire story.

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Why does the media, and yes, TMP, ignore Bernie Sanders?

Is it because he is not following the generally established modern protocols for winning a presidential election; because:

  • He is consistent and clear on his message, and has been for decades.

  • He has consistently been for policies that would improve the lives of the
    greatest number, whether or not those policies would help the wealthy.

  • He is not begging millionaires and billionaires for money.

  • He has no SuperPAC.

  • He is not running attack ads. And very few ads, really.

  • He isn’t paying huge sums to pollsters or media consultants.

  • He has no endorsements from fellow elected officials.

  • His hair and clothes are still rumpled half the time.

  • He still flies in coach. I mean, really!

It’s almost as if he’s a man of the people! And has been for years!
How dare somebody like that run for President of the United States!

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The nerve!

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Can’t help but note that TPM for some reason found this “story” newsworthy, but didn’t bother covering Bernie’s remarkable speech the other day in Georgetown, not even with a wire story.

This. And Hillary’s foreign policy speech.

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To be fair, they (and everyone else) are basically ignoring Clinton’s campaign as well, except to say “ZOMG new poll shows lots of people don’t like Hillary!”

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Yes – as @AJM pointed out, TPM also didn’t bother covering Hillary’s in-depth speech on her strategy for defeating ISIS.

But, every time Trump sharts out his latest blast of dimwitted blowhardery, TPM will not only cover it, but cover everyone’s reaction to it, and his reaction to their reactions, and on and on, ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

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The Atlantic: "The 2016 Candidates Who Are Making Headlines"
AUG 28, 2015

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ALL DATA

Donald Trump
132,874

Hillary Clinton
116,780

Jeb Bush
70,279

Ben Carson
31,379

Bernie Sanders
27,235

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Take out the ones referencing Benghazi and emails and her number would be closer to Sanders’, if not below.

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The Atlantic: “The 2016 Candidates Who Are Making Headlines”
AUG 28, 2015**

I wonder what those numbers would look like for the most recent three months. Probably Carson will have passed Bush. My guess is Trump still at the top in terms of coverage. That’s what you get when a famous billionaire reality TV star, running for the highest office in the land, goes around saying batshit crazy stuff day after day – the media laps it up, blows it up, and blasts it out, day after day. There’s just no way they’re not going to do that.

I’d just add that while not getting enough attention can be fatal to a campaign, so can getting lots of attention – if a lot of that coverage is negative. Trump has been getting plenty of coverage, but a good deal of it is pretty unflattering and my guess is that the airing of his crazy views is killing his chances in the general election even as it helps keep him in the lead among the fractured GOP field.

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We need Sanders to be President desperately. Go Bernie go!

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Bernie is Hillary’s wing man and is my choice for President…but I would vote for Hillary Clinton with the same enthusiasm were she to get the Democratic nomination.

Social and political issues aside, I do not believe that the Planet can survive the Republicans.

That being said, if Harold Stassen were to run for President against any of the present Republican candidates, I would vote for him.

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Given the tenor of cowardice in this country, and the desire expressed by Adolf Trump, and seconded by the toadies in Congress, to herd millions of Muslims into camps, the “we” Bernie refers to when we says “We would lose” is not just his own campaign.

It is the entire planet Earth.

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It rains on the just and the unjust regardless.

For *TPM’*s omission, I am grateful for *Politico’*s commission of the deed.

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Where do statistics like these lead? A self serving attitude from the press that it’s OK to ignore Bernie Sanders now because we’ve been ignoring him all along? It’s surprising that even Jeb Bush gets more headlines than Bernie Sanders considering how poorly Bush polls.

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