The side for beating Trump and the Republicans into a political bloody pulp.
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And if you are building a revolution you need down ticket âsoldiersâ in the battle supported by these same folks. Where is Bernieâs down ticket efforts? It would seem he could redeem his name if he made a statement about supporting Secretary Clinton and then said the campaign now moves to down ticket battles to assure like minded candidates win elections all the way down to dog catcher.
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Thereâs all that talk about Trump being a Clinton plant designed to throw the election to the Dems. Sanders is surely looking more and more like a Republican plant designed to cause maximum damage to the Democrats.
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I donât at all mind Sanders saying, âthe struggle continuesâ because it does. It always does, so heâs right. The question is which struggle. The ones for economic, racial and social justice? Or, is he talking about the struggle for Bernard Sanders to be the Democratic nominee? If itâs the former, then I sincerely hope that means heâs ready to pass the baton onto the new leader of the struggle, Hillary Clinton.
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Thatâs one of the most unfortunate things. The âjokeâ part is certainly not what most of his supporters signed up for â they liked the message he seems to have started his campaign with. Then Sanders being who he always has been, it quickly started turning into a ideologue cult, and some of the supporters went down with the leader to become a cadre of Bros.
Iâm encouraged though to see messages out there from his supporters that now that it is over they are ready to work for Hillary because they believe that means they are working to save the country.
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As one with a reputation for âalways finishingâ?
Iâll posit at those times where winning isnât possible-- itâs more important to understand the bigger goals-- than to continue to try to win. In this case? Itâs defeating Donald Trump and winning as many downticket races as possible.
What Iâm seeing from Sen Sanders at this juncture-- is those two goals do not appear to be his main concern.
jw1
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CAT promised me that this debacle would be over today. What happened??
Maybe we should start refusing to vote for Bernie under any circumstances??
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Wow! Itâs ON! Something incredible happening in North Dakota peeps! Canât you feel it? I won the caucusâŚfeel the bernmentumâ! Won by 162+ votes or whatever theyâre called⌠wait! whuuut??? gawwdamightyâ⌠the numbers actually represent delegates to the state convention next weekend, not people present at the caucusâŚalthough in some of the more rural counties they may be the exact same number.??
WTF is this? ~facepalm!~
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Certainly not Donald Trumpâs side. The continued, intentional or not, refusal to support the majority Dem candidate just fuels the campaign of Trump! And again why not take your energy and resources and apply them to down ticket candidates?
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A couple of points.
I am not convinced that the âclass struggleâ, as you put it, is the central problem of our time. I do agree that income inequality has really become extraordinary.
However, the biggest challenge we faceâglobal warmingâis only tangentially related to income distribution. People will continue to use fossil fuels until we have a replacement technology. Currently, a viable substitute doesnât exist.
Itâs quite possible that a few super billionaires could fund the search for a solution more effectively than governments, just as a Bezos and Musk are advancing the space race.
Second, I think Sanders was a terrible, terrible messenger for class struggle.
He and his wife enriched and grifted themselves up the ladder for decades, without contributing anything of note in the sphere of public discourse.
Sure, the Clintons are much wealthier, but Bernie is just shabby, in every way.
Add to that the fact that Sanders doesnât relate to the poor or minorities well at all.
The speech announcing that Baltimore is worse than Nigeria? Come on!!
I believe that Jesse Jackson was a far better spokesman for economic justice than Sanders.
Sanders has a mediocre intellect and, Iâd wager to guess, is not a workhorse at all. He doesnât seem to have learned much new, or added many new lines, to his speeches or writings in 40 years.
I may grant you that Sanders found a genuine spark in the populace, but he couldnât live up to his own hype and expectations.
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Iâve been astonished all morning seeing Sandersâ supporterâs comments pointing to his overwhelming win in North Dakota.
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And Montana! Donât forget Montana!
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Fine. Then Iâd suggest stop trashing Sanders and his supporters, and let the process run its course. Hillary won, Sanders lost - everybody understands that. But continuing to trash Sanders and his supporters isnât helping to unite the Democrats for Clinton - it is having the opposite effect.
If you disagree, then please explain how trashing a candidate and their supporters is at all inviting to them. Hint: It isnât.
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Agreed. Thereâs nothing wrong with crossing the finish line⌠as long as you donât end the race trying to trip, scratch, and claw at your competitors in order to injure them so that theyâll perform poorly in the next race.
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Please read the comment right underneath yours by @pluckyinky. It answers your post exactly.
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Sheâs trounced usâŚthe fight continuesâŚ???
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It is the Clinton supporters who are trying to âto trip, scratch, and clawâ their competitors, even after they have won the race. Just read the comments here.
If he manages to screw up this election for us weâll remember it all right.
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Every time I hear one of these Bernie supporters say, âAny day now, sheâs gonna be indicted. Sheâs a crookâ â I want to say âyou sound like those tea baggers who yelled âimpeach himâ about two minutes after President Obama took the oath.â
To them we said, âHuh? For what? Give me evidence, show me facts. What are the grounds?â And we shook our heads at their insanity and moved on.
I am sooooo done with this group. Their hatred is beyond belief. What did Secretary Clinton ever do to them? What has Senator Sanders ever done for them?
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( @brooklyndweller added because it goes to his comment about Berniebros. )
This is a great point, and one that isnât in my opinion being expressed enough: Bernieâs not helping the down-ticket Democrats, and heâs not training his army to do more than Squat-and-Squack.
There is more to a ârevolutionâ or âstruggleâ than moaning loudly. Anyone can bitch and fuss about how everything sucks. As Hillary remarked to a heckler earlier in her campaign, âwhy donât you run for something?â.
If Bernie had one whit of organizational capability or vision for the future, heâd be teaching these energetic youth how to organize for public office. How to put together contacts and network. How to identify issues important to retail politics and run for office, starting at the local level with an eye to carrying it forward to bigger and better things. Heâd instill in them the need to run for EVERY office in this country, from county parks board to water board to Democratic county committee to school board to City Clerk and eventually city councils, boards of supervisors and aldermen, state legislative office, and perhaps Federal office.
If Bernieâs Kids had any vision within them or a leader who would impart to them a vision, theyâd start exercising and flexing the enormous potential power that the Millennial generation can have to effect Real Change in our society.
By limiting their âstruggleâ to sitting around bitching about how unfair the world is they are asking to be marginalized, minimized and ignored.
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