He conspired to help Nixon to violate the Logan act and tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands died in southeast Asia. I don’t think it is too daring to call it treason.
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You’re moving the goal line. You said “they committed treason by tanking negotiations with Vietnam during the 1968 elections when they held no elected office.” Now you claim “they conspired to violate the Logan Act.” That is false. There was no conspiracy, unless you have information I’m not privy to.
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OK, how about tutor?
Or, maybe just a pal?
Or maybe just somebody she admires?
Or maybe just somebody she praises?
Is “mentoring” too harsh, considering he’s a war criminal?
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Yes, “mentoring” is too harsh.
Five days before the 1968 election, President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered a bombing halt of North Vietnam to begin negotiating an end to the Vietnam War. Johnson needed to keep this decision a secret; any leak could jeopardize the peace he was seeking. Kissinger, who had been an adviser to the negotiators, called the Nixon campaign and said, “I’ve got some information. They’re breaking out the champagne in Paris.” In his own memoirs, Richard Nixon says that he had received advanced word of the negotiation “through a highly unusual channel.” Three days before the election, the South Vietnamese pulled out of the talks because a Nixon confidant named Anna Chennault informed them that they would get a better deal under a Republican administration. The number of Vietnamese and Americans killed because of Kissinger and Nixon’s sabotage of the Paris negotiations remain unaccounted.
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Well, I guess I went overboard then. Kissinger the War Criminal is just a Pal and Tutor whom HRC Admires and Praises. That was unfair of me.
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I am not moving the goal line; you appear to misunderstand football. I am consistent in saying he conspired with Nixon to tank the negotiations, which violated the Logan Act. I did try to advance the ball by pointing out that the direct result of that act was massive, avoidable deaths, but that doesn’t change any goal line or post.
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So, by sharing information with Nixon, Kissinger is fully responsible for everything that Nixon then did with the information.
Okay. Good to know.
Allow me to repeat:
So, by sharing information with Nixon, Kissinger is fully responsible for everything that Nixon then did with the information.
Okay. Good to know.
Fully, no. Partially yes.
“He was only partially responsible for the deaths of millions” – that’s what they should put on his headstone.
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Yes, I think so. Considering he did so for his own advancement, knowing what the likely outcome was.
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My God, if I could only detail all the cases of people receiving information and then acting reprehensibly as a result, we could go back and lynch every single person who every passed along a bit of info.
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And how exactly do you know that? That everything Kissinger passed on to Nixon was done “for his own advancement”?
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Because I understand realpolitik.
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We’re talking about Henry Kissinger – if you want to pretend he didn’t know what he was doing by leaking the information to Nixon, that’s your business.
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Thank you. I was afraid you might actually have facts, like Kissinger’s autobiography, to support your claim. Instead, it’s only your presumption. Thanks for the chat.
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Yeah, and one obvious difference here between Clinton and Sanders is that Hillary has actually been there, done the job. So if she listens to Kissinger at all, it’s simply as someone else who has faced challenges at the same level, whose advice she can take or leave at the end of the day — because she has her own extensive experience to draw on.
Whereas Sanders seems to be stuck in a bit of a time warp, as if his foreign policy views haven’t evolved much since his days of protesting the bombing of Cambodia — a bit like Noam Chomsky I suppose, still an icon of the Left who hasn’t added anything original to the discussion since the 1980s.
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No, I don’t pretend anything. That’s apparently your realm. Kissinger is evil, therefore everything he ever did was for evil purposes. I love these talks.
Come on, meta. Cambodia, Vietnam, Chile, Argentina, Iran - where do you want to start with Kissinger?
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Never would have guessed we’d have such an ardent defender of Kissinger as the likely Democratic nominee.
Really does reinforce Bernie’s message about Hillary’s judgement, or in this case lack thereof.
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