Discussion: BBC Radio Host: Hard For Men To Say No When 'Whipped Up' Into 'A Storm' (AUDIO)

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This guy makes rightwing radio assholes seem sane.

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And you know, I didn’t think that was possible.

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It is so simple.
NO MEANS NO

So much for the notion that the Brits are more intelligent and sophisticated than we rubes in the colonies are. Jesus, this guy should run for office as a Republican.

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Uhm…so. Rape is the woman’s fault because they need to understand that men are animals and can’t control themselves. Right.

This is 2014, right?

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Not on his planet.

Filed under “Why, as a man, you should really try never to talk about rape. Ever.”

LIbtardS have THIs rapE thING sTANDIng oN its HEaD. WOMen InsTIGATe the RAPE by TeaSING wHIPPEd UP intO A stORM meN whO are ONLY FULFiLLIng the unSPOKEN WIshes OF the WOMen TeasING. EsseNTIALLY it IS the MEN beING cOMPLIANT with the WOmen’s wishes. RAPE IS WOMEn FAULT nOT mEN!!1!!!one!!1!1!!!

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LOL, classic. “No means ravish me…”

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What part of 'NO" don’t some guys understand? Don’t stick things in someone else’s body without their consent. It is a pretty easy concept.

I disagree entirely on that. I think it’s a big mistake for men to not talk about rape, because it’s something that affects everyone, not just the victims. So I think it’s healthy for men to talk about rape…unless they’re idiots. But if they’re idiots, it doesn’t matter what gender they are. They still shouldn’t talk. This sort of Blame the Victim thing doesn’t sound any better coming from a woman.

One of the few discussions men should have about rape would include an admission that they are the aggressors in the act and also a promise to work with other men to enlighten them about the nature of the crime. Women don’t need lectures from anyone.

There is some responsibility to make that “no” unambiguous. The idea that a man can’t stop himself is bull, but a woman who says “no” while continuing to undress and slip into bed is playing with fire. Is it rape if a woman says “no”, but then, later, after a little gentle coaxing, consents? Certainly it is rape if he uses force, but romance is a lot of stop and go and non-verbal signals.

No. But they do need to understand that.

Hmmm…perhaps I needed to be more specific. Obviously, anything that equates with “don’t rape” and “rape is a problem” etc. is fine for a man to talk about. Maybe if I said “explain” instead of “talk about”? Anyway, sometimes things that should go without saying go unsaid, so I suppose I just assumed what you said would be implicit in what I was saying, because, yeah, I really didn’t need you to explain that to me, but thanks anyway.

However, the point does still stand that any dude who decides to start flapping his gums about rape in any manner is taking a risk that people are going to flip out if they do not hear precisely what they want to hear.

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Which is almost never going to be what you intended to say.