Discussion: Barney Frank On Biden: 'He Can't Keep His Mouth Shut Or His Hands To Himself'

Hugo, your post is a failed attempt to deflect from the cheap shot Barney took at Joe Biden

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Ouch! Let’s not turn on each other now. Leave that to the republi-tards!

Prove he’s wrong.

We’ve seen lots and lots of incidents where Obama’s said things he’s later apologized for or agreed with questioners he shouldn’t have shot off his mouth about. And Obama’s not nearly the Chatty Cathy that cracker Graham is, or McCain, or any of the Teapers, or … Joebiden. Joebiden, before Obama picked him for veep, was one of the talk-in-front-of-any-camera mostiest in all of Congress.

Now - can you point to stories about unwanted touchings and Joebiden?

Well, Frank isn’t the first liberal or Dem to point out Biden has been a little handsy in some recent public appearances. To wit:

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/yfmksi/the-audacity-of-grope

(In addition to the TPM opinion piece, which, whether or not you agree with it, didn’t come from a Republican.)

I’m can’t say I’m surprised that people would deny it, and I certainly understand sticking up for him when he gets unfairly criticized rather frequently (which is basically Frank’s point), but it seems pretty clear to me that he’s made a few women uncomfortable. And it’s a rather weak link to Frank’s scandal to say he’s being hypocritical. We’re talking about Biden’s public behavior vs. a private, possibly inappropriate relationship, and one which he may not have had if he could have been openly gay at the time. I don’t think anyone would be talking about glass houses if he made a similar comment about a Republican who was whispering in a young woman’s ear while she had a petrified look on her face.

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Or just the voice of bitter experience.

Why? If it’s the truth, better a Dem should say it first.

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It makes me sick the way Joe Biden paws women and girls. He creeps me out. Not that Barney wasn’t a financial industry whore. Yeah glass houses, but it’s true that women don’t like being pawed like Biden loves to paw women.

And a lot of women also remember he was the chair of the judiciary committee and spared Clarence Thomas from the testimony of at least two women who were prepared to back up Anita Hill with stories of their own. He allowed his fellow Senators to savage Anita Hill. More than anyone else, he is responsible for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

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Many likes. A woman’s POV about being pawed by Joe finally emerges in this thread. It’s creepy, unwelcome and pointless. The photos and videos of those moments are available for anyone to go to, and we don’t need to make a choice on whose side we come down, a retired gay Congressman and an old hustler story, or a current VEEP being ā€œIrishā€, ā€œhimselfā€, and ā€œcharmingā€ and so should be overlooked. He overwhelmed the Anita Hill hearings because he loved the sound of his own voice, didn’t listen to Hill, thought Clarence needed a chance, and here we are today.

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So, I’ll put you down as ā€˜not a fan’, right Barney?

It may be that Barney is missing the spotlight.

No better way to get it back (these days) than to say something foolish within camera range.

And nowadays we’re always within camera range.

Barney’s written a book, *Frank: A Life in Politics from the Great Society to Same-Sex Marriage, *getting mostly good reviews, and he’s out there promoting it. So, he may occasionally spout something perceived as foolish in the midst of occasionally spouting profound. This quote of his should have been cited instead of the Biden nonsense:

He is unsparing, however, in his critique of Republicans, describing George W. Bush’s war in Iraq as ā€œthe worst single policy decision any U.S. President has ever made."