It almost doesn’t matter who would lead the ticket: take your pick, Oklahoma or Ohio
I think you mean Massachusetts or Ohio. Warren hasn’t lived in Oklahoma in a long time.
Two concerns: generational cohort and race. We must be the future …
Massachusetts pols have a lousy presidential election record (Kerrey, Dukakis, Romney, Shriver, Lodge) Better to pick a Red State Dem like Claire McCaskill to win over the Midwest and a veep like Booker or Perez to get the vote out
Scandal-less Caroline Kennedy, 3 minority adopted children one of whom is a gay/lesbian, member of Americans for Separation of Church and State and unafraid to show her tax returns…
All that matters is that she’s Okie on the ear, much as Obama was Kansas when he wanted to be.
Warren is not a Kerry or Dukakis type. She’s the opposite. She’s full of fire. My only concern is her age – assuming Trump’s their candidate, do we really want to run another elderly candidate against him? Will we have, as Reid acidly put it, a “nursing home” primary between Warren, Biden and a few of the other altacockers? Where’s the young blood? The other thing to consider: while Warren is the ideal populist candidate, America may have had its fill of “populism” four years from now.
Yes, it is too early.
The rollout of the Trump administration is going to be one calamity after another. That needs to be the focus of news reporting for at least the next year, if not longer.
This article is, quite frankly, bullsh*t. What we need to focus on is the midterms. It’s not gonna matter one good goddamn if we can’t make any headwinds in State and local races. We’ve got 20 odd seats to defend and this guy wants to start think about 2020??
I have no idea why Josh insists on keeping these irritating concern trolls like Avishai and Judis always saying what the Dem Party does wrong when they’re only nominally a part of it.
But let’s face it: he too old to run for president again, and though he might have won, was perhaps not the most attractive candidate in the first place.
Um, Sanders LOST THE DAMN PRIMARY. How might he have won???
It’s no secret that a solid bloc of the Trump vote was really the anit-Hillary vote. Not the anti-Dem vote, the anti-Hillary vote. If Hillary’s supporters turned out for Bernie the way they implored Bernie’s supporters to turn out, it’s really not a stretch to believe that President Sanders would be sitting in the Oval today. The Never Hillary faction within the Left was larger than the Never Bernie faction, and this election came down to a photo finish.
“The Democratic party, in other words, must have a clear message that speaks to the anxieties of the traditional Democratic voters it lost.”
you must build a NEW strong foundation prior to 2020.
that is why i support Ellison…he brings the energy needed …(compared to the rest)
the pretender is not going to get much more popular than he is now…winning seats in 2018 is imperative.
the main issue is getting people out to vote…and confronting the republican voting fraud.
schumer …is way to tepid…and not the person to reach and inspire the next generation…majority progressive…talk down sanders all you need to but his energy and message resonated with that generation.
he could beat the pretender. ( but i do not believe he will ever seek re-election…let alone last 4 years).
and democrats may need to go in an entire new direction…a presidential candidate who IS NOT a politician…but the most important thing to remember is we can no longer put forth a ticket…that doesnt include a person of color.
an African-American female vice-president…makes sense to me…at least.
Booker is a no-no. He just voted against allowing the importation of Canadian pharmaceuticals, no doubt because he’s in the pocket of NJ pharma. Unconscionable and disqualifying.
there were a lot of reasons that even taken alone cost hillary the election.
the anti hillary pissed off bernie faction…was one of them.
Sadly I don’t agree. The expectations for Trump are so low that his popularity will rise if he demonstrates the slightest competence. That’s why it’s so key for the Ds to hold him to his promises on “insurance for everybody” etc etc.
I also think that assertions that he will be impeached are wishful thinking.
But I do like the idea of the Ds branding themselves around Warren and Brown.
Yeah. I’m prepared to start…say… Friday. Is that too early?
“she or he should announce today”. But seriously, I disagree with this. The Republican destruction of Hillary Clinton began on the day of Obama’s first inauguration. While it makes sense to begin positioning and grooming, to announce immediately is to provide a big target for those Republicans entrusted with no real responsibilities (think Jason Chaffetz) who get put to work driving the PR bulldozer.
Forget Warren, she’s a East Coast, intellectual, female Liberal who wouldn’t make it in the Midwest unless she were prepared to spout a whole bunch of racist platitudes. And even then, the fact that she was a woman might disqualify her.
You may be right.
But she is an Okie, though, and was a Republican until fairly recently, and will get the under-35s to turn out, and will have credibility as a person of integrity.
I got my Warren 2020 button a few days after Trump’s election. I don’t know whether she’d be the best candidate for progressives, but she’s the heaviest hitter right now, IMHO. I wouldn’t concern myself with the next presidential election–I’d keep up the coverage and outing of every piece of BS that comes out of the current government, and counter it with facts. Trump and his team are thus far artless at responding. Let the Trump administration crumble beneath the weight of its own actions.
Pie in the sky. (Would that be considered airline food?)
If there was any sort of stomach, backbone, or fortitude in the “democratic” party there would be a solid “opposition” to some of the horrors that are crossing pages like this practically every hour on the hour these days.
But the “democrats” are so “busy” trying commiserating over the loss of “The Royal Family” that they have not one gram of concern for those already beginning to suffer at the hands of Mister Dump and his minions.
But there is no organization, no plan, no structure. Instead, all we see is mass genuflection toward Chappaqua, with moist and tearful eyes over what might have been.
Excuse a strong choice of words here but–
Screw that.
This may be the one and only chance the “democrats” ever have to stand up for whatever it is that they want voters to believe in about the “opposition.” They have to define themselves and what it is they believe and start presenting whatever that might be as an active, viable alternative to the cut-rate “Frankenstein” on Pennsylvania Avenue.
Instead, they sit around like kids who’ve had their bicycles stolen, with their knees touching their low foreheads and wailing “Why me, Why Me?”
I said it during the campaign, and I was called all manner of the most vile things, here and in other places. But I repeat: “I’m not Trump” was no way to run a campaign.
And it’s no way to try and save what was once a major political party from extinction via sheer lack of substance. As it stands, the 'democrats" might just join the Whigs and the “Free Soil” party in the wing of political history that features dinosaurs.
“Next Democratic Ticket?” That’s a real knee-slapper!
Shouldn’t there be a Political Party behind a “ticket?”
Just askin."