Discussion: Attorney Of Patrick Kane's Accuser: My Client's Mother Was Sent Her Daughter's Rape Kit Bag

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Looks like paper - tho “evidence bag” is largely a euphemism. Some childish mind thinks a random brown paper bag in a random picture is capable of moving at least one potential juror into thinking, Hmmm … certainly looks like bag-like … and it must be somewhere … sooooo…

Then again, we live in a country where Republicans control the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the decided majority of state governments, that conducts a critically significant percentage of its voting by paperless & otherwise unverifiable technologies, billionaires own almost the entire governmental process, most public reporting is done by hired hacks, and one major political party’s contest for its nomination for president is being led by a repulsive con artist, and religiotic anti-science former surgeon, and someone who’s destroyed ever business she’s ever run. So - MAYBE!

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What the fucking fuck?

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That’s not what I would have thought a police evidence bag looks like, at all. Unless the evidence it’s containing is a 40-oz or a PB&J.

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According to a quick Google Image search, they can sometimes be paper bags, but all evidence bags have printed labels with a bunch of sections for gathering information.

If I wanted to take a photo of an evidence bag I’d include the label so it, like, actually looked like one. This is odd.

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So much for the chain of evidence non contamination.

If they didn’t immediately turn that bag over to the State Police, then they are playing games. If they did, then someone is gonna get fired long before there is any trial… if it comes to that.

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A brown paper bag used as an evidence collection bag is not uncommon. I don’t even know why the bag is in dispute unless someone is arguing that the hospital that did the rape exam doesn’t typically use paper bags for evidence collection.

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Yeah…definitely an incomplete story here. I get the background on the charges against Kane.

Now explain to me about the lede…what is this bag, how did it get on her mother’s front door, when did it get there? What do the police have to say about it?

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Odd.

OK, so maybe this is a bigger story here in Canada… but the question remains… WHY THE FUCK haven’t the police said anything? Outside of mob trials from the 50s I’ve never heard anything like this!

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This, folks, is yet another reason why we here in Buffalo and WNY can’t have nice things.

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https://twitter.com/markpoloncarz/status/646769921473572864/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Police are saying they have the evidence all accounted for, including the rape kit. So, this is a hoax?

According to comments in the Chicago Tribune, the driver of the evening is the accused’s good buddy, a local cop. The inference is that he theoretically had access to the evidence, both this bag and it’s contents. It’s probably pertinent that the accused has both a history and is a Big Star in the area.

Such bags are readily identifiable, so just any old shopping bag wouldn’t pass muster as an evidence bag. Perhaps the reason they didn’t photograph the label portion is that it contains the accuser’s name. Or perhaps someone in this scenario is trying to muddy the waters. Whatever the case, the victim blaming on that site is running at flood levels.

I don’t know. Her attorney seems to be playing it as if its the actual rape kit. The police claim is somewhat dubious, as they are saying “as long as it was in our control”, which already implies that it isn’t now. (which seems pretty obvious, otherwise they would have produced it and said, “See?” ). Since the case hasn’t gone to trial, why isn’t it still in police custody?

It looks like the criminal case is destroyed now. Even if the hospital turns it up, it obviously hasn’t been in police custody so the chain of evidence is broken. A civil suit against the PD probably just popped up on the radar, however.

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Prosecuting athlete-criminals always has to deal with jock-sniffing cops.

Speaking of fucking fuck, since you’re also from nc by your user name, did you hear about all the rape kits that got thrown out in Fayetteville?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-300-rape-kits-destroyed-north-carolina-33933578

Well, after all, if we’ve learned one thing in North Carolina, it’s that hanging on to old DNA evidence can only lead to the exoneration of people on death row who have it comin’ to 'em even if they didn’t actually do the crime, a thing that’s especially embarrassing to totally not racist white people who get themselves emotionally invested in believing in the guilt of black men on death row in reaction to black activists calling for a retrial.

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Just to be clear, and I haven’t followed up on this story today, but that statement is saying they have the rape kit, unmolested, without any ambiguity. The words, “as long as it was in our control”, do not appear in that statement, nor do any other loop-hole type statements.

Just pointing out what they are saying, not validating it, but it doesn’t seem like you looked at the statement if that was your take away.

Well, it sounds like this was indeed odd – the accuser’s lawyer just quit because he found the bag story weird, and while he believes the accuser, he doesn’t want to represent her anymore. I guess he doesn’t trust her mom. “Their may have been some fabrications regarding the bag,” he said.

“The bag is real, and is a real evidence bag from this case,” he said. So: still odd.