Discussion: Atlanta Airport Passengers Wait More Than An Hour To Get Through Security

It’s basic federal rules about sick leave. They can’t use it except as specific defined things. Not getting a paycheck is not a valid excuse.

On the macro level, you’re probably right, not much push behind it.

On the micro level, this is where supervisors can use this as a legitimate tool to get rid of people they don’t like. It’s a clear rule violation.

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They can always claim that since they had not been paid, they had to skip meals and that made them weak and dizzy and unable to perform.

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Then the supervisors can start requiring them to go to a doctor to get a doctor’s note validating their incapacity to work…

It’s a losing battle for employees. That’s why we need to give them stronger protections, including the right to Strike when they’re not getting paychecks.

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Atlanta huh? Where a lady just got on an international flight to Japan with a gun and ammunition…and nobody registered that! Luckily, she self reported to the flight attendants and got sent back from Japan on the next flight. The Japanese are probably thinking WTF?

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I’m sorry for all of the passengers, but we need more of this. We need travel shut down and services failures of all kinds all over the country. The blind need to be made to see.

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As inconvenient as this sounds, they warn constantly 365/24 to show up as early as possible to get through the lines at ATL.

They are constantly longer than anywhere else.

I’m not sure why this is news except that maybe there’s a better reason than usual for the length of the lines.

I flew out of MSP last night and, yeah, I waited a little longer than usual to get through TSA, but there weren’t any stories about that last night.

Talk to me when ATL has to start shutting terminals, like Miami has done. That’ll be a story.

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Houston shut down a terminal early on Friday.

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If they can’t afford gas or bus fare, how can they even get to the doctor? And what about the co-pay?

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Corporate air travel is what keeps US airlines in business. I should know; I’m self-employed but work as a consultant on mostly-corporate events. I fly a lot most years.

Corporations keep track of every second their employees are working and make decisions on the value of every second, as they reckon it. That’s how they justify having private jets for their top Executives. That $10,000,000/yr. Exec makes about $19/minute, if you consider them to be on the clock every second of every day. If you get a few such Execs going to the same place, and you can save them a few hours by having a private jet, in corporate finance terms you’ve saved the company money.

Corporate America isn’t going to put up with having all their road-warriors on the clock for more hours per day because of President Trump’s ineptly having painted himself into the Mother of All Corners. Corporate America will come down on GOP Senators and get a solution that meets their needs, just as the home mortgage industry got the IRS employees who verify incomes paid through incoming tax revenues so the home mortgage business didn’t come to a halt.

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None of those things are in the rules, so it doesn’t matter.

Again, not saying it’s fair, it’s just the reality of the situation they’re in. Lose-lose all around.

I hate to blow the story, but hour long lines in Atlanta for non-TSA pre are not necessarily unusual.

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You may want to recheck your math there. $10,000,000 a year, is around $80 a minute.

I don’t get paid for travel time. No one cares how long I wait in line at the airport.

Back when I first started consulting in 1995, it was made very clear from the start and continues to this day that travel time is not billable. Period. Doesn’t matter if I have WIFI and can answer e-mails while airborne.

No-shows among screeners across the nation soared Sunday and again Monday, when the Transportation Security Administration reported a national absence rate of 7.6 percent, compared with 3.2 percent on the comparable Monday a year ago.

I doubt this improves the situation - particularly if moral is already in the dumper due to the people on duty having missed last weeks paycheck. I suspect that most of the TSA screeners fall into the 80% of Americans that are living paycheck to paycheck with almost no reserves. They’re probably already worried about choosing between rent, food, and medicine. I can’t imagine what happens if this goes into next week. A lot of other federal employees are in the same boat, as are many more contractors - and the contractors won’t be getting back pay. (Not that getting back pay matters if you’ve already been evicted because you didn’t make the rent on time and someone like tRump is your landlord.)

And now I understand there will be retribution over the sick-out, which is a real shame.

"We’re confident that we will be as efficient and as welcoming as people expect the city of Atlanta to be here at Hartsfield-Jackson for the Super Bowl,” Gobeil said.

Whistling past a graveyard, airport edition… By the time people are streaming in for the Super Bowl - probably late in the week of Jan 28, TSA screeners will have missed their second paycheck, ATCs will also have missed their second paycheck, and CBP will be in the same situation, assuming anyone from outside the US will dare to enter the country. Could be ugly - will enough Senate Republicans revolt this week?

It’s going to take 55 R house members bucking Trump as well before this is over. The extent to which our system of primaries and gerrymandering selects them to be the most extreme of extremists makes this a tougher ask than the 15+ Senators.

Last Friday as I passed through TSA checkpoints I made it a point to thank them for still working. One very funny TSA ID checker started into a quiet rant as she verified my ID. I told her I agreed but I jokingly told her if she got me started she was going to have to refuse my entry past the checkpoint. We laughed and she chased me on my way.

I appreciated her humor and commitment to her work, but this is personal. And, it’s not getting any better.

Call your Congressman at least twice a week and let them know that we are all watching.

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Republican Koan: Is it a strike if you’re not getting paid? :smirk:

Yes, ramp up the pain. Make Americans realize how important federal workers are to their well-being and how Don the Con and the corrupt GOP are making their lives worse. And, if you don’t believe me, aside from air travelers, ask the farmers. I wonder what proportion will go bankrupt and lose their farms due to Humpty Trumpty’s Tariff War For No Reason and the government shutdown.

You think some (almost all?) will be rueing their 2016 votes?

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