Discussion: As Vote Nears, GOP Senator Warns Tax Bill Ignores 'Debt And Deficit Issues'

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Those senators deeply supported by the Tea Party wave - getting earfuls about the tea party (and Obama Obstruction) mantras of “Can’t do x, BECUZ of DEFICITS. Have to shut down govt BECUZ of DEFICITS.” After spoonfeeding via Fox and the RW media industrial complex this “austerity as Truth” these folks are colliding (some times internally) with the Trumpsters desire for a win for the Dotard.

This particular battle isn’t the ‘establlishment’ vs. the Trumpsters. It is between the extreme nutjob fanatics from 2010-2016 and the nutjob trump cultists. If the stakes for all of us were not so high, I would be enjoying this showdown, as a spectator sport.

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Yeah…well…we’ll watch how you vote. Just whining isn’t cutting it anymore.

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Bah! The Kansas Miracle only failed to appear because lawmakers lost their nerve, quit clapping and let Tinkerbell die. They were on the very brink of Randian Utopia and let it slip through their fingers through lack of faith.

That’s the lesson for Republicans from Kansas. Clap you fuckers, clap!

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Lankford, a member of the key Senate Finance Committee that hashes out tax policy, said Republicans need to learn from what happened over the past few years in Kansas, where deep tax cuts sent the state into a fiscal crisis, forcing cuts to public school funding, roads, retiree pensions, and state universities.

Damn. Never thought I’d hear a Republican senator say that.

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2-6 years from now: “Yes I voted for that stinking heap of shit, but I was actually against it from the beginning. If only we had a real conservative in the White House!”

@carlosfiance Call me when a Republican believes that.

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Here’s the part Republicans don’t tell their voters: they get to pay more taxes to pay off this new debt. On top of paying off existing debt.

And hey, Kansas and Oklahoma Republicans, that’s also on top of the higher taxes Republicans in your legislatures will take to pay off your state’s higher debt.

Merry Christmas!

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Kansas is the prime example of how tax cuts do not spur economic growth.

If this bill passes, Medicare and Social Security will be slashed. There will be no funds for infrastructure. National disasters -you are on your own. Funding for science via research and development -poof gone. The pentagon budget will need to be tightened too. National Parks -what are those?

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Exactly.

Worse yet. These things are tied together. It’ll crash like dominoes – weakness in one, takes down the next, which affects the next…

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Actually, I kinda take him at his word. There’s little to be gained from the Repub base by challenging Repub dogma that tax cuts will cure all ills.

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Oh, come on, they may not have to pay that much more in taxes once Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security have been ransacked.

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My jaw hit the floor, at that.

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Psst, Editors - I think the correct citation for GOP-expected growth is 4%, not .04 percent. It use fantasy but please report it accurately.

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Me neither. I’m pretty gobsmacked - that sounds like a Democrat talking.

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Flake, Corker are leaning and they’re also senators trumpp’s dissed in tweets. McCain is also leaning, and we know what trumpp’s said about him. If just one of leaners votes no, we have a burnt piece of toast instead of a bill.

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Of course it does, because it was never meant to deal with that. Its sole purpose is just appeasing a donor class ready to abandon the party

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“Watch what we do, not what we say” Attorney General, John Mitchell said and he was pretty shitty guy. Lankford does have a problem. Folks in the Heartland know this tax cut to prosperity stuff doesn’t work and have shifted, ever so slightly, in a direction that opposes these scams. But there’s GOP hell too pay if Congress doesn’t do it as well. As the bit mentions, if this fails the GOP has zero to show the American people for a year under Trump. No wall. No tax cuts. ISIS still kicking. Obamacare rocking. Clinton free as a bird. Nada. They can hype the economy and the Stock market which are legacy Obama effects but only their base buys it and they already have that base. It’s not enough to win though.

This Tax “reform” has to be a done deal. They’ll strip the ACA stuff out of it and pass it.

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But talk is cheap. When push comes to shove he will get in line like a good little Republican’t and vote for it because his paymasters require it, or else they’ll send their campaign donations to somebody else.

Which is why I call them “Republican’ts.”

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Huh, I guess leadership needs to pull this dude aside and explain the Conservative position on deficits: They only matter when Democrats are in power.

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Except this:

which lead to this response

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