Discussion: Arizona School District

Teaching the value of censorship to our future leaders.

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I think people are missing the point. This is a reasonable response too a bad state law. Rather than change or modify the textbook, the district has had students place a formulaic sticker in the text. It is very clever—sort of like Reagan saying he was Christian, but not attending church.

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Back in reality, adolescents generally pay scant attention to their parents and even less to their teachers. The sticker alludes to the one thing that dominates their lives. Cognitive psychology informs us that when people hear ‘don’t do this’, they mostly hear ‘this’. We should therefore expect, if anything, an increase in activity among the youthful students of biology. At minimum, it’s a good conversation-starter.

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I wonder if these guys “love America”. Ill bet they say they do. This kind of thing, indoctrination of the young, has been around for a long time. It’s a step a society takes to get to a very bad place. That’s the way it has always been as it’s going to be the case there too.

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"Must do nothing to “promote the homosexual lifestyle”…!

Are you freaking kidding me? Are we really still THERE!? Yeah, because outcast bullied teens are dying to opt into new ways to get scorned, abused, beaten up, and become pariahs of society! They are just waiting to be convinced it’s the right thing to “choose”! Ignorance.

I was just about to add, “Sincerely, the Mormons.”

An unfortunate turn of phrase, considering the context.

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But you know, if we put these kids back to work harvesting crops in the summer, we’d be taking back American jobs stolen by illegal immigrants! It’s win-win! We still get our produce and cheap labor!

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Addendum to sticker in books: Yes, we promote childbirth and adoption, but don’t expect us to help you out with either of those. Yes, we’re pro-life… until the baby is born, then he or she will have to make it on his/her own. Good luck, chumps!

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Well, abstinence itself is actually the most effective way to eliminate any possibility of unwanted pregnancy or the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases. That part is accurate. The problem is that, no matter how accurate that statement is, abstinence-only education is the least effective and most problematic form of sex education largely due to what you stated. It does not stop teens from having sex, and when they do, actually creates a situation where said teens are more likely to get STD’s or pregnant.

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With abject apologies to those who think otherwise, my experiences in helping my daughter find a place to live in the Phoenix area this year has resulted in a couple of conclusions. Phoenix and northern AZ are basically a giant ghetto with only a couple of gated communities, unattainable to the average taxpayer, separate from the general malaise.

Gun stores are held in higher esteem than keeping the city clean. Freeways seem well connected, but, in practice, are extremely vulnerable to even an auto pulled over on broad shoulders resulting in crippling backups affecting entire swaths of the city.

Very little manufacturing and mostly service oriented with pay not really commensurate with living expenses, resulting in long commutes and/or depending on government services.

I am not surprised to hear that religious teachings have penetrated what ordinarily should be secular studies. While great for manufacturing if one is a wire coat hanger maker, it does not bode well for the future.

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Ah, School Board Policy. This brings to mind an incident from my teaching days. I had an 8th grade homeroom, meaning the kids could be anywhere between 12 & 16 years of age. The principal I was working under at that time was pretty inept (not to mention loony) & was wont to get on the PA system in the morning to rant at the kids about “policy” (mostly useless) and the serious consequences which would rain down upon students who did not comply (none, actually, but that’s another story). One of the girls stopped whatever she had been doing for a minute & looked at me with a very puzzled expression. I asked her if there was a problem. “Does she actually think we’re listening to that?” she asked earnestly.

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Religious misogyny. It’s so screwed up that it is hard to unpack. Fortunately, it’s dying out in the US and hopefully everywhere else. US abortion rates are no longer four times as high as in Finland, (8.7 per 1,000 women aged 15-49 years in 2014 vs. US 16.3 per 1,000 women 15-44, 2014) i.e. only about double. But put another way, ignorance and superstition are still playing a large role. Indeed, with the massive venereal disease and abortion increases seen in southern Sweden, which has a large concentration of immigrants, Sweden’s once stellar women’s health numbers are now on par with the US.

It is particularly odd that state entities are commandeered by religious groups in a manner that harms public health. Women are legally no longer considered chattel, an owned thing, the rights to contraception and procreation are protected fundamental rights, and the Supreme Court is sort of done with the abortion issue. Finally, abstinence is a proven approach to increasing disease and unwanted pregnancy. Why would any rational entity advocate such nonsense?

My question, therefore, is that in taking such a reckless stance, can the school board be held liable for the damage they inflict? We see this with anti-vaxxers, failure to respond to the needs of people with disabilities, and even protocols for non-sexually transmitted communicable diseases. In contrast, Gilbert, just outside Phoenix, is in Maricopa county which is not a great performer in terms of STD rates in 15-24 population. Speaking with your parents is advice, of course, but not too effective in this case. Rather, access to information and protection seem paramount.

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The nonsense of this. We live here for the sunshine – that’s about all AZ has. Many people here are just nuts!!!

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That does help explain it – but still, isn’t a sticker in biology textbooks a bit mean spirited? Why biology? How about marking up Shakespeare, as that has a lot of sex in it? And a sticker on every page of the Song of Solomon, for sure.

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Arizona, Arizona.

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maybe they should include a packet of aspirin for the girls that says in case of horniness place aspirin between knees problem solved

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As appalling and offensive as this development is, I believe that the kids are smart enough to figure out that this is nothing but political aggenda propaganda andthen think for themselves. When it comes to matters of sex, the teens I know, often know more than their parents. Stuff like this actually backfires getting kids to think more critically. Nothing ignites teens more than challenging nonsense forced on them by school officials.

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Taliban…shia law…in the name of christ.

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With luck the teenage students will be teenage students and mock the hell out of the whole thing.

The intent is to indoctrinate a set of beliefs - perhaps the set of beliefs that actually gets indoctrinated is that half wits always show up to vote.

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