First Amendment, heard of it?
Yet another ignorant fuckstick moron Republicant.
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Dare I ask if the introduction of this bill produced a round of polite laughter and no serious consideration from fellow lawmakers? Sure, the ACLU brought up some immediate objections, but thatâs expected. What I would like to know is did the other GOP legislators shout âBSâ, or more likely âDrink!â
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I donât even want to read this article because the headline says it all, and Iâm already feeling in a funk today. But, I just wanna say that Republicans, no matter who they represent have all adopted this kind of authoritarian strong-arm strategy, by using the law to restrict any type of citizen action to reign in obvious abuses. They basically support any Fascist form of strong-arm tactic, theyâre willing to codify into law, to suppress regular folks from having the upper-hand to monitor wrong-doing, enable whistleblowers, or permit oversight. I repeatâŚthey do this against law-abiding citizens, some of whom have the idiocy to vote for these wingnuts!
Whether its being able to protect VW or any other corporation from class-action law suits against direct harm, poisoning Flint water by a massive takeover by State govât over local authority, or this fucking Representative wanting to take away 1st Amendment rights. Its all part of the same Overlord mentality that motivates these maniacs.
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It is entirely possible that a cop being filmed will indeed shoot. A person who is totally innocent could get killed going so. To wit:
Watch this cop draw his gun because he doesnât like being filmed. This is scary.
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Kavanaugh wants this bill to protect the police and not for protection of the public.
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Looks like a J. Crew color chart: Wheat, Sand, Ecru, Biscuit, Wheat, âŚ
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Welp, there are some wimminz there. But the population here in AZ is mostly white or Hispanic. And there are Hispanics in our state legislature. There are relatively few black people here compared to other place in the US
That cop was already looking for bear. If he was so freaked out he should have stayed in his car and waited for backup, but it seems he had no sense or self-awareness as to how his own actions escalated the situation rapidly and perhaps unnecessarily. That is scary. If I was the guy being pulled over however, I would have taken my hand out of my pocket. Not that that would have insured a different result. The cop could have still found some reason to pull out his gun.
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Some insignificant moron gets his 30 seconds of fame trying to get garbage like this pushed thru in a âConservativeâ State, ALEC takes it National quietly while Americans are âbusyâ looking at pictures of cute kittens. Thatâs how trash like this idea winds up on the Floor of the House, with some other idiot screaming âNational Security!â
Have a nice day, and Oh, by the wayâŚ
Sieg Heel!!!
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Is it any wonder I spend most of my time at home?
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Shouldnât there be some legal penalty for proposing legislation blatantly intended to subvert Constitutional rights? Donât these guys swear some sort of oath to uphold and protect? If gerrymandering protects assholes like this from political consequences, isnât there some way a group of constituents could have a judge consider whether the lawmaker is abrogating his responsibilities to an extent that endangers their equal protection under the law?
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Trump: I fully support it. This is valid even if the cop is undercover. If you film an undercover cop at any distance, you go to Guantanamo Bay.
Cruz: I say if you film anyone who joins Police Academy in future, you get death penalty.
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How openly fascist of him.
When confronted about the problems the First Amendment poses for the
measure, the lawmaker said an all-out ban on taping police interactions
may not be justified.
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Then what is so magical about 20 feet? If it isnât justified for an all out ban whatâs wrong with filming from closer?
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Agreed
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Yet another example of small government.
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AhâŚthen weâll end up with a Gutenberg Seven being send to Gitmo. So, maybe not so bad.
@darrtown - Presumably at twenty feet itâs harder to spot a drop gun on video.
I donât understand the reactions in this thread. Yes, I think 20 feet is a bit too far, but letâs say it was 10 ft or 15 ft. Why is that not reasonable? If Iâm trying to do my job, possibly deal with an unruly, resisting, assaultive individual, you getting up in my grill and crowding me while trying to film the interaction is an officer safety issue.
He doesnât appear to be saying âyou canât film police interactionsâ, but just âdonât obstruct justice and lawful operation of officer duties while filming.â
Obviously the legislation would need some leeway in case youâre in your driverâs seat filming a stop (or other similar situations).
Oh please.
This isnât someone two feet away from the cop, getting between him and his perp. Thereâs already laws about that, and itâs called âinterfering with a police officerâ.
The âup in my grillâ bit is just a straw man unless you can point to an incident, in Arizona, where this was actually an issue, and for some reason the cop couldnât arrest the person for interfering with an arrest.
This is is so that a cop can arrest someone filming one of his fellow officers (and boy, I sure trust a copâs judgement regarding distance when it comes to protecting a fellow cop) doing something questionable.
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Question: What if a cop purposely walks closer(less than 20ft) to someone who is filming him/her legally at a distance greater than 20ft?
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Wasnât the person who filmed a man being shot in the back by a cop last summer (I think) more than 20 feet away from that incident? They still were able to film the cop picking up his dropped taser and moving it to next to the body of the man he had just shot. And itâs visible. I donât say this to defend Kavanaugh in any way shape or form. For some reason I cannot yet fathom most images ans film of incidents turns out grainy or fuzzy and out of focus. Even Kavanaughâs vaunted âmodern camerasâ. In my understanding of the Constitution this bill has no legs to stand on.