Discussion: Anti-Gov't Activists See Vindication In Acquittal Of Oregon Occupiers

Fry again suggested that the U.S. brace for future actions like the armed takeover of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, which began in January and lasted 41 days.

Sound a bit like a conspiracy, doesn’t it?

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Been waiting for some media play about the FBI/US Attorneys new conference that was supposed to be held in Portland this morning at 9:00am. It was going to be some explanation for the failure of the US Attorneys’ office to prosecute the open and shut case against the militia trespassers. Any body heard anything at all about that or are we really going to spend another day of the disgusting FBI Director Comey’s politicization of the Presidential election via more email bullshit.

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Sheer coincidence that all those “patriots” arrived at the Masher Refuge at the same time and all packing enough guns to intimidate the federal employees there from showing up for work. What can be done about Jury Nullification in the face of such a horrible verdict?

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I saw this elsewhere. Great question:

Why is there not, at the very least, a civil action to make them responsible for the damage done during their “protest”?

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The ongoing protest over the construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL), which has been carried out largely by Native Americans and environmental activists, appears to be an unlikely new draw for militia members. Rhodes said he’s heard from “plenty of guys who have expressed interest in going up there,” as has at least one of the acquitted Oregon occupiers.

This is horrifying to me. Because if these assholes turn up there with their guns and their posturing, it could give law enforcement and the DAPL-hired private security the excuse they’ve been looking for to kill every native protester they can.

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“We must not be afraid when we’re told to act by the lord,” Bundy went on. “We must act and not be afraid.”

*“this is the way the world ends… not with a boob but with a whimper…”

… * with apologies to T.S. Eliot…

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“In the big picture, they’re right,” Stewart Rhodes said of the occupiers in a Friday phone call. “Western lands are being stolen from the American people. It’s not just white ranchers, it’s also the Native Americans too. It’s happening right now at the pipeline. So it’s the entire west.”

Excepting of course that unlike what happened/ is happening to Native Americans, white ranchers lands aren’t being stolen, white ranchers are trying to steal public lands from the American People for their own private use.

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“Western lands are being stolen from the American people. It’s not just white ranchers, it’s also the Native Americans too. It’s happening right now at the pipeline. So it’s the entire west.”


Singing ‘two of these are not like the other…,’

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Western lands are being stolen from the American people. It’s not just white ranchers, it’s also the Native Americans too. It’s happening right now at the pipeline.

YES! This #deplorable is exactly right. It is wrong, unjust, and illegal for a private entity to unilaterally take over lands owned by a sovereign nation!

Ok kids, pop-quiz time! Draw a line from the group to its proper classification!

GROUP                       CLASSIFICATION
Ammon Bundy, Rancher
U.S. Government/BLM Private Entity
Standing Rock Sioux Sovereign Nation
DAPL Construction, Inc.
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Somehow I have the suspicion that when the next “occupation” occurs, the law enforcement folks are going to be somewhat less willing to wait them out, and try for calm, controlled arrests. I have a hunch that they will, instead, move in quickly with overwhelming firepower, and demand an immediate surrender. No sense turning these clowns over to the courts if stupid juries are just going to cut them loose.

This cannot be said too much. I’d like to hear who Rhodes thinks owns the land the government is supposedly “stealing.”

I’m really depressed about this decision.

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Does this mean it is okay for me to take over Yellowstone or maybe Yosemite?

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Short answer: Nothing.

Longer answer: Next time, more care needs to be taken in jury selection. There were obviously a majority of jurors who were sympathetic to the defendants.

It sounds like the jury instructions were faulty, too. More care needs to be taken in writing the jury instructions. Basically, the AUSA was outmaneuvered by the defense.

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Heck of a job you’re doing, Republicans.

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They didn’t learn a thing.

The Rule of Flaw

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If you don’t understand “white privilege,” then ask yourself honestly:

How hard would the prosecution have had to try if these guys were Black?

What “airs of triumphalism” would they have been allowed to have then?

It been what - 40 years? - since you could put “suicide” on a Black man’s death certificate that had been shot three times in the back, hanged upside-down and burned to a crisp.

These crackers “anti-government activists” still shit their pants about the Black Panthers (from the 60’s) and quiver like Donald grabbed them about the eight-member New Black Panthers.

It was the lord who gave us the advantage,” he said. “He always gives us the advantage if we stay true to him."

“We must not be afraid when we’re told to act by the lord,” Bundy went on. “We must act and not be afraid.

You know, that would look just so great carved into LaVoy Finicum’s tombstone!

It is not over yet, they still face federal charges in Nevada.

Of course, I am sure they are counting on Jesus and Donny the Populist.