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When it comes down to it, the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment has very little to do with immigration; it is fundamentally focused on the preservation of civil rights.
Nailed it.
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Trump is starting to not be very funny. This is just another way (that won’t happen anyway) to remove voters from the rolls.
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I keep wondering why people call these the concepts of “conservatives.” They are nothing of the sort. They are pure reactionaries. The GOP is reacting against anything that challenges now or has already challenged that the USA is a hierarchy, not a democracy, with white rulers at the top. Ugly.
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He gets less funny by the day, as every dumbass, extreme position he takes becomes a new litmus test for all the Republicans running.
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That’s why the gop/bags hate it…those pesky civil rights laws!
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OH, ding, ding, ding…get those black, brown, tan, and every other color but white, US citizens, OFF the voters rolls.
There it is!
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C’mon Trump, be real. The Republicans in the House have so far refused to pass legislation to solve the immigration problem. You can’t solve the problem by removing so-called “illegal aliens.” We need them. You think that legal Americans will take their jobs? Not a chance. Go and talk with Boehner the cowardly speaker.
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…Trump would better serve the GOP, and this nation, by proposing serious immigration policy solutions.
That’s the problem: Trump has no interest in serving this nation. His only interest is self-interest.
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I remember a CHiPs episode where Ponch helped deliver a baby by the side of the highway and “welcomed” him to the USA while his non-English speaking mother cried tears of joy. I’m pretty sure this is the cause of Trump’s outrage.
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…Trump would better serve the GOP, and this nation, by proposing serious immigration policy solutions.
Not gonna happen, no way, no how.
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But facts don’t seem to matter to Trump.
Could have stopped there…or even just said to the GOP, rather than specifically Trump…but overall a good presentation of the facts that are often lost in the hyperbole.
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Unfortunately, these facts do not matter. Despite the history of such, this current round of the Cultural Revolution started in January 2009, and people have been worked up into a frothing frenzy of hatred such that nothing short of rounding everyone up will work. The GOP leadership let it fester but can no longer control it. These people want to be vindictive about illegal immigrants (or undocumented, if you prefer) to the exclusion of all else. They’re like the baying crowd outside Lot’s door who want the two strangers for their own nefarious purposes, but completely oblivious to the parallels or even the meaning of that episode.
Pathetic.
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I dunno, I like the idea of getting white people off their fat asses to go out and do the hard labor they like they claim this country was built upon. As long as there is wireless reception in the lettuce patch, of course.
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In the mid-1800’s anti-immigration politicians known as the Know Nothing’s rose to some success on platform similar to what Trump is proposing today.
His position is interesting in many ways but a few specifics cast them in a “curious” light.
Trump’s mother was an immigrant from Scottland. It is questionable wether or not she had papers allowing her to enter the country.
Trump’s father’s family immigrated from Germany. Again, there is good reason to believe that they came into the country without an entry visa.
It was the large wave of German immigrants that came to the USA during the 1850’s - 1920’s that had the Know Nothing’s so upset.
It seems that the first person that Trump should export is himself.
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You are absolutely right. This is the answer to every Teapublican prayer.
Same as it ever was…
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No, they did not. They promoted it enthusiastically, because they thought it would be a great wedge issue. And it is, but it has rent the party itself.
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My wife’s uncle and his wife came to the USA as a student from Brazil, but went out of their way to take advantage of that visa to give birth to their daughter in San Diego solely so she would have American citizenship. So, yeah, people do take advantage. Even so, my wife’s cousin, now in her early twenties, has never lived in the USA, other than a few months on a study/work abroad deal working at Disney World. But it will certainly help a future career in Brazil to be able to travel between the two freely, and the option is always there for her to live and work here if she chooses. So they didn’t have an anchor baby, they did it to give their child a gift. What parent wouldn’t, if they had the opportunity?
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What I find bitterly ironic in this is that I was raised as a good little conservative by my very conservative parents (my father was a Reagan delegate to the national convention and supplied me with a National Review subscription as I went off to my godless communist university) and I remember them instilling pride in me regarding the US and its open arms to immigrants from all over and its commitment to civil rights. By the time they were in their 80s, they both had adopted the “correct” side of the wedge issues surrounding immigration and civil rights. How this happened is a mystery to me, but it is clear that conservatives have abandoned their principles in favor of hardcore power grabbing.
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