Discussion: Al Gore Meeting With Ivanka Trump At Trump Tower: Climate Change On Agenda

This is no joke, y’all. Trump owns having to deal with climate change. It’s not waiting for the Dems to come back to office.

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Mr. Gore, trust Ivanka at your own risk. She and her husband, both Orthodox Jews, have no problem with her father being besties with white supremacists.

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Agreed. It couldn’t hurt and from appearances, Ivanka is likely the most receptive to reason among the Trump clan.

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His parents are orthodox Jews, he is not.

Maybe Gore will tell that bitch to go fuck herself. That’s about the only thing positive that could happen in this meeting. I’m sick of this. Just because she’s a women and doesn’t look like a plate of mashed potatoes, people seem to want to give her a pass. She apparently is going to be running the Drumpf Organization but also work on White House policy. This isn’t a joke. She’s a monster that only cares about making money for her family. The apple doesn’t fall from the tree.

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Ivanka… 'Al, can I call you Al? You know, Daddy just hates those windmills so close to his beautiful golf courses. Do you think you can help him out with that? There just might be a seat opening up on our Environmental Resources Board."

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With all due respect, fuck you Al.

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So now we are getting to the… “buuuuut-t-t-t they are not REAL jews”

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If there is any chance at all that the Trump admin will take climate change seriously Gore should make his case. It is a powerful one. Like it or not, the Orange Horror listens to Ivanka. I don’t have any hope that it will make any difference whatsoever but give Gore some credit for at least walking into that disgusting tower of corruption to try to make a case for saving some of life as we know it on the planet.

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Sadly she seems to be one of the few people who has any influence over the Orange Idiot. I really am tired of seeing Al Gore trashed all the time because he really did try to warn us all about global warming.

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I hope you’ll explain that comment. What could the reason possibly be to always refer to them as orthodox if they’re not?

There are Orthodox and Reform Jews just as there are different denominations of Christians.

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Well, here it says that he is Orthodox

My point is that he may not be Orthodox enough for you, but I just wanted to point out the “No True Scotman” fallacy. And to be honest if SOB Kushner belonged to any group that I consider myself part of, I would be embarrassed as well and looking for BS reasons to exclude him.

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I just don’t understand all of the support for Ivanka personally or in terms of her having so much control over policy issues. She made one decent speech where she claimed to support women’s and family issues - so what? She hasn’t worked (with her money or her time) for policies that help anyone except the ultra wealthy. Talk is cheap and, by meeting with her as if she is some elected official, we give credence to her status within government. I am not indicting Al Gore specifically as we owe him much in terms of the issues he has fought for.

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Well, Gore went to meet with Ivanka, but he accomplished a meeting with the President-elect:

Gore told reporters that he spent “the bulk of the time” with the President-elect after meeting with Ivanka Trump.

Gore feels strongly that climate change should not be a partisan issue. Part of that stance is acting in good faith. Surely he knows that Trump is a lost cause, but like Obama he’s going to try his best anyway.

I’m all for calling out Trump loudly and publicly. That might be my role and my friend’s roles, but I don’t think that’s Gore’s role at this stage in the game.

As an aside, I read an interesting thread on Reddit a few days ago called “Liberals, what is your most conservative viewpoint? Conservatives, what is your most liberal viewpoint?” A fair number of conservatives cited concern about climate change as their liberal viewpoint. I was encouraged by that. Fat lot of good it does us, but still.

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The fuck? Why is Ivanka taking meetings on climate change?

NO ONE ELECTED HER TO FUCKING ANYTHING.

Sorry to shout.

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I think she’s considered to be one of least insane members of the Trump family, and some rumors have it that she’s fairly moderate or even liberal on some issues. I think the idea is that she could be used as somewhat of a back door liaison in dealing with some of the more insane Trump shit likely to come. She’s daddy’s little girl, and she’s got some influence over him. This might be a good thing.

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Exactly.

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All depends on how well Gore has read Trump’s character. If Gore is saying this with the basic understanding that Trump craves approval and is easily swayed by the last person he’s spoken to if that person understands Trump’s relationship with approval, I’d take it more seriously than if he doesn’t understand those things. And if Gore understands this, he will be seeking more meetings with Trump.

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