Discussion: After the Tennessee Terror Attack, a Historical Trend We Need to Remember

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Wes Clark would never propose anything like a Japanese internment program!

This author is manufacturing a controversy where there isn’t one, and smearing one of the good guys while he’s at it.

Fact: there are recruitment efforts in this country from radical terrorist organizations.
Fact: there are Americans who return to the US after being “radicalized.”
Fact: the US military is a target of radical terrorist organizations, such as ISIS.
And Fact: We have to gain control over terrorists in our midst–call them home-grown terrorists, if that makes you feel better. Clark was addressing that problem.

We have got to defend ourselves from people who have as their goal the murdering of other Americans. Seems self-evident.

And, by the way, a Confederate flag came down as a result of Roof’s murders. His act and identity were not passed over.

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Except he did say that.
Article from yesterday here at TPM:

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“In World War II, if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn’t say that was freedom of speech, we put them in a camp, they were prisoners of war,” Clark said.

He also said: “If these people are radicalized and they don’t support the United States and they are disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle, fine. It’s their right and it’s our right and obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict.”

Clark suggested that American Muslims could come to embrace radical Islam after losing a girlfriend or if “their family doesn’t feel happy here.”

Just because he got flak and issued a “whoa, I didn’t say all Muslims” doesn’t change the fact that he proposed something dangerously close to those very same internment camps.

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I agree we shouldn’t overreact, ‘internment camps’ are absolutely ridiculous and un-American in any true vision of what America should be. But I think there’s a danger of under-reacting also, as Dylan Roof showed us. The culture that allowed Dylan Roof to do what he did is a southern white culture that happily cultivated a society of racial pride and supremacy that was too easy to take to an extreme. Only now are confederate flags coming down from government and public grounds and a lot of these people are not happy about it. Talk to these people and they will tell you the shootings were horrible and he should get the death penalty for them, but you will also get more than you should of ‘I understand his issues, but he never should have acted like this.’
It’s not that different in today’s Muslim culture. Extremists do not have to go very far to find cover for what they’re doing in their community. From the Boston bombings to this guy to the idiots who shot up the idiotic Draw Mohammed contests, there is a similar culture of racial and religious supremacy, and plenty of people saying in the aftermath, 'I understand their issues, but they never should have acted like this.

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Long as they don’t react by infringing my Second Amendment rights, what do I care?

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Also quoted from Wesley Clark’s interview:

"Any implication that I support racial profiling or interning people
based on their ethnicity or heritage is dead wrong. I’m for separating
people who have made dangerous decisions from the rest of society. "

What would you suggest be done if citizens here, as they have in England, go abroad for training with ISIS and return as enemies of the state? In the U.S., they often have ready access to arms.
If they are known enemies of the state, should they be allowed to re-enter or passports be rescinded and denied entry?
Easy to criticize, harder to come up with plan to protect the population.

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