Discussion: After The Second Debate, Jeb Bush Is Still Stuck In Donald Trump's Mud

A debate is not the place to repeat what you hear at the major family meals Jeb!

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I remember I actually cheered Trump when he made the comment about W being so bad that Abe Lincoln couldn’t have gotten elected as an R thereafter.

I cannot stand Trump, and felt guilty about cheering him at any point ever, but seeing Jeb get obliterated just made my day.

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Yes, unfortunately. Also people believe in the Protocols … Zion, birtherism, Xenu, the Urim and Thummim, and Christianist founders, inter alia.

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Uh, not sure about Yglesias’ chart. There may have been only 5-6% as many deaths as 9/11, but I sure as hell count April 19, 1995 as a mass-casualty terrorist attack. Just not one that had been red-flagged for the president to ignore.

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In fairness, I think even Trump was stunned that Bush would go there, even following up with mentioning the rubble of the Towers. Just days after the anniversary. Despite the applause from the neocon donor class in attendance, that moment showed just how stunningly tone deaf Bush is, and played horribly to rest of the nation.

The brain literally freezes up with all the possible examples of how W. failed at protecting the country…9/11, Katrina, the troops pointlessly put in harms way in Iraq. And of course, the absolute economic destruction that prompted Trump’s comments in the first place. I know mine did.

But it also revealed, what I think, is a major weakness in Bush, which his is sense of entitlement due him for his family name, and defensiveness of anyone challenging that. His response to the question about his foreign policy advisers being nothing more but a recycling of his brother’s staff. “Well, hey, when the last two presidents are my brother and my father…”, delivered with a smug self assured smirk.

That moment encapsulated why he will never get back in the White House.

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That lie was repeated, without any push back, in both debates routinely. Its part of the GOP neocons attempt at rewriting the history. W. was great for going into Iraq, even though they had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, smashing the counterbalance to Iran in the region, and splintering the country into hodge podge of regional and religious armed conflicts. The real problem was we didn’t go in big enough, or stick around long enough (which is forever, obviously). And just like Katrina, that’s totally Obama’s fault.

Same thing was on display regarding the Syrian discussion. Rubio’s response to why he voted against giving Obama the authority to actually respond was completely bullshit and a rewriting of history. They weren’t voting against it because they wanted Obama to go bigger, they were voting against it because Obama wanted it. Plain and simple. Its a laughable excuse to even float, but, the crowd loved it.

Paul is the only one that got that right. If we had bombed the crap out of Assad and committed ground troops to removing him from power, we would be looking at ISIS setting up home in Damacus right now. Or a free for all war between Assad loyalists, various rebel factions including but not limited to ISIS, Russia, and ourselves. Which is what they were all advocating for in some form of fashion last night. Graham and this other idiots just fly right by the $5 million spent on training rebels resulting in what, 5 actual fighters? There must be “good” rebels out there, because they wish it.

I don’t see Bush being able to claw his way back on top, but regardless of who the candidate is, a GOP President WILL be committing ground troops in the Middle East in yet another war.

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Mud is the preferred Bush medium.

Jeb falling for T Rump’s ‘pull-my-finger’ joke.

Jeb give back the money and drop out your toast

Jeb’s funders think they ‘own’ him. Wrong. The Donald owns him and the ‘low five’ at the end ‘sealed’ the deal.

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Again.

There’s so many times, I think, including Terry Schiavo.

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When it comes to Jeb! this is worse than Schievo.
Jeb advocated for a pardon and U.S. residency for two of the worst Cuban exile terrorists. You figure some folks in the media would ask him about it.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/02/usa.b…

"Most controversially, at the request of Jeb, Mr Bush Sr intervened to release the convicted Cuban terrorist Orlando Bosch from prison and then granted him US residency.
“According to the justice department in George Bush Sr’s administration, Bosch had participated in more than 30 terrorist acts. He was convicted of firing a rocket into a Polish ship which was on passage to Cuba. He was also implicated in the 1976 blowing-up of a Cubana plane flying to Havana from Venezuela in which all 73 civilians on board were killed.”

It obviously doesn’t surprise me that he defends his brother (and even most of the other candidates do to a greater or lesser extent, since they’re all on the same side), but it’s truly astonishing to me how much Jeb keeps on doubling down in more public ways. It comes off as so tone-deaf that there must be some intentional strategy behind it, but I can’t for the life of me see what it is. I mean, after the debate, Jeb tweeted the line out again - accompanied by a picture of W literally standing on the bodies of those he failed to keep safe. Seriously, WTF???

https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/644542458735525888

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