Discussion: After Secretive Senate Process, GOP Will Completely Own TrumpCare

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You have to be pretty old to remember when Republicans gave a shit about the public good. I’m 71 and I remember it, wistfully…

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On this day 71 years ago the congress passed the G.I. Bill. Last of the New Deal Reforms. With conservative Democrats from the South being the sticky wicket, it had been debated for months, but ended up being passed by both houses unanimously.

Also, it happens to be 9 yrs since we lost this guy.

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"At its heart, the repeal efforts appears to be, in fact, a trojan horse for Republicans to gut Medicaid, after President Trump ran explicitly on preserving the program."

Very transparent trojan horse I would say. Everything else appears up for negotiation except this.

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Is this just a show letting Donald veto a bill ?

Giving the following benefits:

  • Donald can claim to ‘protect the little guy’ and improve his poll numbers
  • The GOP can claim they kept their promise to repeal the ACA and save face
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As I remember, it was some time in the Eisenhower administration.

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In his stop in Iowa last night, Trump blamed Democrats for not cooperating on health care reform.

Will any prominent Democrats step up and immediately point out what a load of complete bullshit that is?

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I’ll say it again:

“We have lost the South for a generation,” President Lyndon B. Johnson supposedly told an aide after he signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

If there is justice in this world, the GOP will lose the whole country for a generation if they pass this.

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Let’s be real, the Repubs and their FOX Propaganda Wing will find a way to blame the Dems/Obama for this disastrous bill and 30%-40% of the country will believe it’s all The Dems/Liberals fault for why they have no Healthcare, no Medicaid, losing jobs all over the place, etc

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As I remember, it was some time in the Eisenhower administration.

There were a number of responsible Republicans who played significant roles in pursuing the Nixonian creeps in Watergate. Hell, it was Tricky Dick himself who signed into law the legislation establishing the EPA, and he also proposed establishing what became OSHA.

But that was before the GOP had fully ingested the millions of racists and Biblical Literalists in the South who had formerly voted Democratic.

30%-40% of the country will believe it’s all The Dems/Liberals fault for why they have no Healthcare, no Medicaid, losing jobs all over the place, etc

The Democratic Party should have embarked on a massive, organized, coordinated, country-wide PR campaign to inform the electorate what’s in store for it once Republicans had the chance, and should have done so six months ago. But that would require a recognition on the part of the party leaders that pro-active communication that anticipates future conditions even exists as a concept.

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Just imagine the attack ads—“Rep./Sen. Whosis supported an ACA repeal bill so terrible that even Donald Trump understood it would hurt you!” Total self-sacrifice to benefit Trump, and why they owe him at this point I can’t imagine. It’s like pulling the pin on a live grenade, tossing it on the ground, and then throwing yourself on top of it, just to boost his numbers a few points with the boost gone by mid-July anyway. I think we need to have the imagination necessary to realize they really want to turn this country into a state-of-nature Pottersville where the rich get richer and the middle class and poor suffer because who told you to be middle class or poor? You should have worked harder.

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Lately I’ve been thinking about this old comic book ad. You do have to wonder when Democrats will finally get tired of having sand kicked in their faces…

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So they own it. So what? The question is whether its passage can be prevented.

I suggest calling Republican senators, pointing out that millions will be deprived of healthcare under the bill (and the House version), that thousands of them will get sick and some will die, and pointing out that if conservatism has come to mean condemning people to illness and death in the service of tax cuts for the rich, it is morally bankrupt.

We all know this, of course, but Republicans need to have it pointed out.

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Schumer has been pointing this out, but to the rest of the country he already has two strikes against him-New Yorker and Democrat.

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Would be nice if Democrats got a backbone. But they always “Keep that powder dry for the real fights”. Honestly, just once I wish they would disrupt the Senate the same way McConnell and his fellow Wall Street Whores did when Obama was in the Oval Office.

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I’m not sure what you mean by “public” good. If it is that narrow slice of humanity we call ‘white male’, I get it. Otherwise, you’ve lost me. I’m 78 and I’ve never experienced an ounce of public good that was truly altruistic.

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OK, but if a voter likes Donald, he/she are not going to vote D under any circumstances anyway ?

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On the bright side, all this imminent destruction will become the stage where the Left can introduce a national universal health care system that will save the People from ruination, the backward health care for profit capitalism, and Evil incarnate, the Republicans.

The People must suffer greatly before they realize the true Evil in the Land, the Republicans, must be Destroyed!

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Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock in 1957 to enforce school integration there over the opposition of governor Orville Faubus. This was before the Civil Rights Act. Eisenhower wasn’t particularly in favor of integration, but he did insist that the laws and the courts be upheld for the public good despite his personal preferences.

From his speech at the time:

The very basis of our individual rights and freedoms rests upon the certainty that the President and the Executive Branch of Government will support and insure the carrying out of the decisions of the Federal Courts, even, when necessary with all the means at the President’s command.

Unless the President did so, anarchy would result.

There would be no security for any except that which each one of us could provide for himself.

The interest of the nation in the proper fulfillment of the law’s requirements cannot yield to opposition and demonstrations by some few persons.

Mob rule cannot be allowed to override the decisions of our courts.

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6335/

Compare that with the Trump administration’s constant undermining of court decisions.

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Perhaps after this passes and goes into effect, the Republicans - in an act of true compassion - will legalize assisted suicide.

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