Discussion: After Saying Trump Asked Comey To Give Flynn 'A Break,' Giuliani Denies Comment

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Looks like Rudy is gonna 9/11 45ā€¦

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This is becoming uncomfortable. Heā€™s not actually lying, because heā€™s not consciously saying something false. Rudy Giuliani is not well. Get him off TV.

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ā€œLook, lawyers argue in the alternative. I know itā€™s complicated, but my goodness, weā€™ve been over it long enough that ā€” I mean, why would I say something that isnā€™t true.ā€

LOL. Because it comes as naturally to you as breathing, perhaps?

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"Well, heā€™s tellinā€™ us this and heā€™s tellinā€™ us that,
changes it every dayā€¦sez it doesnā€™t matterā€¦

ā€¦Time to change the batter." - Joe Walsh

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Not only do we have alternative facts, but now we have alternative arguments, argued by alternative lawyers? How soon do we get to alternative presidents?

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Alas, the ā€œnot wellā€ crowd is exactly who Ghoulianiā€™s playing to.

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Thatā€™s the core challenge, even for such a practiced and prolific liar as Giuliani: you forget which lies you told and which you can deny.

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So we are past double talk, quadruple or quintiple maybe? The baffle them with bullshit defense isnā€™t working Ghouli.

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ā€œHow soon do we get to alternative presidents?ā€

Arenā€™t we already there??

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Heā€™s playing to an audience of one: the Fat Orange Gasbag in the WH residence who just wants Rudes to go on TV and hear the things Donald wants to hear on TV.

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Sure, heā€™s playing to ā€˜the F O Gā€™, but we canā€™t ignore the SScammity/LIngraham crowd for whom all this double-talk is a comfortably warm blanket of bullshit.

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Rudy ā€¦

You need to listen to the master ā€¦

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" I mean why would I say something that wasnā€™t true"ā€¦Because you are a FUCKING LIAR!

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Can you spot Ghouliani in this graphic?

I knew you could.

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This sorta explains why Rudes said ā€œ911!ā€ a bazillion times after the 2001 attacks. He couldnā€™t be called a liar at least.

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This is a planned response by Rudy as directed by Trump. Heā€™s using the same tactic Trump used on the ā€˜would/would notā€™ thing as to whether he believed Russia was behind the DNC hack and other acts of election interference.

Trump and Rudy are pursuing that long established legal theory called ā€˜winging itā€™. Trump isnā€™t that smart but he thinks he is. Heā€™s playing in an area of criminal law that is very complex and there simply isnā€™t any way for Trump to cover all of his tracks. Every time he or Rudy speaks, theyā€™re just winging it to see what argument can gain traction. Theyā€™re floating arguments to see if the GOP will pick them up and run with it to defend Trump and find a wedge to intimidate prosecutors into backing off or finding ways to shut down the investigation. But every time Rudy or Trump opens his mouth, it creates more trouble. An old professor of mine used to say that you can tell how good a carpenter is by how he covers his mistakes. These 2 clowns are shitty carpenters.

The thing is though Trump is still in the office of the POTUS, and while heā€™s there, he remains a threat to the rule of law. Our legal system has to bring charges against his crew (and him) to make them all pay for the continued treason, lying and obstruction. We caught a glimpse of how powerful an act of legal accountability can be with the Collins indictment. He quit his race and now a Democrat is the likely candidate to win a R+11 seat. That seat was not on the Demsā€™ radar (though it was on mine as a potential reach district to invest in).

I can see that Mueller is looking to nail Roger Stone. Iā€™d like to see an indictment there come soon with additional charges added post-indictment. That would really get the ball rolling. We need to start indicting the American co-conspirators who aided the Russians intel operation against the United States.

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Leave it to a Coyote to have the perfect sheepish grin.

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Donā€™t disagreeā€“but I also think the SScammity/LIngraham crowd donā€™t mostly watch any other network: even CNN / MSNBC-level discourse is too complicated and nuanced for them.

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In other news from the prima facie BS department: Kellyanne Conway: ā€˜None of us would be thereā€™ if Trump were racist

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