Discussion: After Mass Shootings, NY Sheriff Urges Gun Owners To Carry Their Firearms

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Oh, yeah, thatā€™s gonna be a BIG helpā€¦

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ā€œIf you look around the United States in the past bunch of years and around the world, whenever thereā€™s these mass shootings, you never hear of anybody standing up and firing back,ā€ Blacrum said. ā€œI want people to be aware of that.ā€

Well we know that worked for the guy at the Walmart who was preparing to take down a shooter, but another shooter was already in the building and shot him in the back of the head. Maybe thatā€™s why we donā€™t hear about it. Just saying.

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Whenever this comes up, I wonder: what is the appropriate penalty for a ā€œgood guy with a gunā€ that kills an innocent bystander?

Do we differentiate between someone who was not armed to begin with and picked up a gun and used it spontaneously, versus someone who ā€œexercising their constitutional rightsā€ was already carrying?

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Letā€™s imagine that a few of the roughly 200 people in that San Bernardino conference facility were armed and decided to shoot back at the attackers. I would bet that instead of 12 people dead there would be dozens.

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I just want to point out that itā€™s not a requirement in America that to be elected sherif you must be a moron. I think thatā€™s a fact that some of our friends from the north and from across the pond sometimes miss.

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So stay out of Ulster County, NY. Got it.

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Ulsterā€™s a reliably Dem county, too!

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Sheriff,
This is what you will get if lots of untrained (or trained for that matter) civilians go about armed:

Please reconsider your adviceā€¦ pronto.

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ā€¦and if you feel like youā€™re proficient enough in itā€¦

Holy crap man.

Has he ever met people? We are inundated with people that think they are great at shit that they are actually terrible at. Now add in ā€˜please carry your gun around and be vigilantā€™ to that soup.

Holy crap manā€¦

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Then they need a new sheriff.

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One of these days, very soon, a good guy with a gun will mistake another good guy with a gun for a bad guy with a gun. As these two good guys exchange fire in public, other good guys with guns will join in to create a circle jerk of friendly fire deaths all of whom died thinking themselves a hero. I wonder how the media will cover that.

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Something must be wrong with my critical-thinkingā€¦

Weā€™re all sitting in a restaurant eating and drinking & talking with our various companions or reading a book, each table total strangers to every other table.

Suddenly, gun shots. Look up and thereā€™s a man with a gun, shooting. Suddenly another man stands up with a gunā€¦and another and another and anotherā€¦bullets flying, blood squirting, bodies fallingā€¦

So I stand up, my gun in handā€¦and all this within a split second, I have to decide WHO TO FUCKING SHOOT because HOW THE FUCK do I know which are the ā€œBad Guys With Gunsā€ and which are the ā€œGood Guys With Gunsā€???

So I just shoot anyone and everyone holding guns and I get shot because EVERYONE ELSE WITH GUNS IS THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME THING!

And somehow, this keeps everyone SAFER??? Sounds pretty fucking INSANE to me.

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Another irresponsible idiot.

Next weā€™ll be hearing and reading about how the ā€˜goodā€™ Sheriff is one of those Constitutional Sheriffs or Oaf Keepers, or at best a signatory to one of those Posse Comitatus or RWNJs sovereign citizens groups. So many dumbass people these days elected to law enforcement that have no business in law enforcement. Time to drain the swamp.

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The all-wise NRA would say that the innocent bystander should have been armed.

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I would remind the Sheriff that five of people shot in Colorado Springs last week were armed.

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And then the cops show upā€¦and Iā€™m holding a gunā€¦

Oh yeah, thatā€™ll REALLY make everyone ā€œsaferā€.

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I must be getting old, because I remember when there were cops who wanted fewer guns out walking around in public, because they figured with fewer guns there was a lower chance that youā€™d have blamblamblamming and screaming and bleeding and dying going on all the time. The fuddy-duddies! Now the po-lees are MASTERS OF LOJIK who understand that if gun violence is making you blue, turn that frown upside down and get yourself a gun or two, because if everyone has more and more guns, together weā€™ll be able to shoot our way to a brighter tomorrow.

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I, literally, buckled over in my chair, put my face in my hands, when I read this. The gigantic void of logic and any semblance of commons senseā€¦it sucks the life out of you. Iā€™m finding it hard to breathe when I read stupid, moronic shit like this. Iā€¦

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Great point!.. Though there is something to be said for the experience of having one guy with a gun shoot you front to back while the untrained Paul Blart wannabe shoots you through-and-through back to front along the exact same path as the perpā€™s round so there is still just the one ingress and exit wound.

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