Discussion: ABC Host Presses Trump: Your Tax Plan Will Save You Millions Of Dollars

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tRUMP is befuddled by his own bullshit.
He’s only able to offer subterfuge in response to any question from the media peanut gallery.

Guess they’ll just have to “leave it there”…as they say on all those stupid shows.

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“I don’t know”. That’s the answer have gave several times when asked how his tax plan would affect him. Him…and he does not know. I’m no fiance guy but I think if you don’t know how something financial is going to impact you ( and you are a money guy ) you really don’t know shit. My father used to say " no one is advocating change to the tax laws that doesn’t allow them to pay less".

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Trump has to be the most audacious con artist to appear in public in this country. That so many have told pollsters they would vote for him is not a testimony to the intelligence of American voters. I’m just hoping that the 30% or so of the voters that seem to want him to be president represents the maximum that he can attract, and may be a pretty constant level of ignorant voters in the country.

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I just hope and pray that the staff at ABC used Trump’s inflated and announced self-worth to come up with the figures. It would be karmic justice.

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Doesn’t that piss you off. It does me

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Trump has said he gets everything he needs to know from Meet The Press and other Sunday talk shows, so tomorrow morning he’ll be able to make a more informed statement.

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George was listening to the producer’s voice in his ear saying “Go to commercial”, because that’s what it’s all about, not carrying the discussion to a reasoned conclusion.

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Yep. Ad dollars probably from some pill Big Pharma is trying to hawk. Like oh, let’s say Belsomra (the newest disgusting money-making Ambien clone).

Belsomra—From TV Commercial (Cats and Dogs) -

“… Do not take Belsomra if you have narcolepsy. When taking Belsomra, don’t drive or operate heavy machinery, until you feel fully awake. Walking, eating, driving or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day, have been reported. Belsomra should not be taken together with alcohol. Abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, confusion, agitation, or hallucinations. The temporary inability to move while falling asleep or waking up, and temporary leg weakness have also been reported. In depressed patients, worsening depression, including risk of suicide, may occur, Alcohol may increase these risks. Side effects include next day drowsiness. …”

Is it any wonder the nightly news and any of the cable companies don’t go after these ads, or report the unethical means of getting people to pay attention to drugs, only a doctor can prescribe? Its usually drugs that doctors themselves have been paid by the drug companies to shill as well. Really its a closed loop system of grafting unnecessary pharmaceuticals onto an already overly-medicated and unwitting public.

Its not likely the media will ever take on these big business interests, as they provide so much of their needed revenues to stay competitive by way of these paid ads. Its really shameful, unethical and immoral, and it drives me nuts.

Same goes for fossil fuels, oil and gas companies that advertise. Barely any news on TV mentions global warming over the years because of who pays for the ad time. The media’s complacency with not wanting to piss of their advertisers really comes at a disservice to us all.

Meanwhile, S. Carolina is slowly being engulfed by water. Yeah, no connection there, I’m sure…

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…remember when a sucker was born every minute???

Those were the good ol’ days…

Now the birthrate has reached warp speed…{{{{{{{{sigh}}}}}}}}

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Excellent point. There is only one reason for drug companies to market directly to consumers, and that is to drive people to self diagnose, and to encourage them to push their doctors to prescribe something unneeded, even when there might be a generic or a less expensive drug which would suffice. Doctors are complicit in this as well. They make money from happy patients. Happy patients are happy because they get what they want from the doctor’s prescription pad.

If only people realized that they are acting as the guinea pigs for every new drug that hits the mass market, they might be more reluctant to rush out to try it. We all should rid ourselves of the notion that there is a pill to solve every problem.

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What pollsters hear from respondents has to be viewed with some skepticism. It could be that individual’s attempt to assume a rebellious voice at the moment, it could be the respondents are not even registered voters or “likely” voters but are just happy to vent to someone. NH and IA primaries are not until February and then we’ll see who’s going to start to slip.

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I don’t watch a lot of broadcast TV but I watch two shows in particular on MSNBC, Maddow and O’Donnell, and drug ads are run regularly particularly for ED (is that their audience, flaccid old men?), and now lately a pill for psoriasis, which I’ve heard from a dermatologist is very, very expensive. I assume people with chronic conditions listen up at the prospect of getting relief.

The sad thing is that the FDA is thinking of granting these pharmaceutical companies a way to shorten their harmful and dangerous side effect notifications in their ads to appease them and make their products seem relatively less dangerous. All to the benefit of Big Pharma…and not in any way to protect consumer interests. So expect to see more fluffy bullshit with happy clouds and walks on the beach and less information regarding the deleterious effects of their drugs.

In the past year I read that MSNBC’s average viewer age is about 60, Fox’s is about 65.

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They should not even allow these direct-to-consumer ads, since, as you noted, they require a doctor’s prescription.

“Ask your Doctor” – and join our pressure campaign.

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So?

I’ll never forget when retired Senator Byron Dorgan went after Big Pharma on the floor of the Senate over their commercials. There’s a YouTube video of it somewhere I’m sure. Seems like ages ago now. And still nothing has changed…If anything its only gotten worse. And the number of withdrawn or pulled-from-the-shelf medications that have resulted in so much harm and death have increased without anyone reporting on how they were able to get away with having those ads for bad drugs on TV for so long. Its now up to the personal liability lawyers to go after that bullshit…and they too are making out like bandits, taking a big piece of the remunerations from class-action lawsuits. It benefits everyone except the people who are actually harmed from those drugs, who get a pittance of the settlement if they’ve even bother to sue. I see as many commercials from lawyers from faulty medical devices and drugs now as I do from the drugs and devices themselves. Like I say, its a closed loop system. Everyone benefits and is protected except the consumer.

Sorry, its just such an incredible pet peeve of mine. These ads are ubiquitous and they have billions of dollars to blanket the airways and the internet too with very little regulation or oversight.

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Agree, and maybe I am misremembering it, but I seem to recall the drug companies pushing for a shorter, more expedited approval process for new drugs in response to the AIDS epidemic.

Wouldn’t surprise me. Sounds a bit like bait and switch to me though.

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