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And your suggestion is?
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I know that you shouldnât feed trolls but this is an incredibly stupid comment. Iâll bet you are all in favor of voter ID laws to prevent a problem that doesnât exist. However, I am also sure that you would view any registration/approval process for guns owners as the âend of freedom in the U.S.â.
Even though I would personally be quite happy with a hand gun ban, I am also quite willing to allow people who want to âblow stuff upâ to have their fun. However, no one has every been able to give me a convincing argument why we should allow civilians to buy semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines without any regulation. Is reloading a threat to freedom?
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More evidence, rather, that youâre a troll. Stricter gun control provably reduces gun violence. It does not and cannot prevent gun violence completely, it was never claimed to do so, and no sane person would require it to do so to see it as effective. Your comment is misleading, and Iâll assume thatâs deliberate. Youâre attempting to obfuscate the discussion and for that youâre being flagged. Ta ta, troll.
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The cons with their constant encouragement for more and more guns are responsible for tragedies like this. The truth is the GOP doesnât really want more guns. All they want is votes from single issue gun owners. If it takes mass murders to get them elected they donât mind at all.
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Folks in Australia got tired after the last mass murder and proceeded to confiscate and melt down nearly all the guns, leaving only a few highly regulated long guns. I would not like to see the same thing happen here. The absolute refusal to allow any reasonable regulation based on NRA lobby shop power will eventually push us over the confiscation edge. It will not necessarily be a Democratic Party law. The GOP would do it in a heartbeat if they saw any political advantage in it.
And by the way, Australiaâs last mass shooting w a s their last mass shooting, if people are interested in one proven solution to mass shootings.
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No, beej, gun control laws save lives, you disgusting freak.
Another âSecond Amendment Freedom Mass Murderâ˘â. Letâs admit it, this is the price for âfreedomâ we as a nation have to keep paying. People like âLibsâ [sic] are fine with innocent people being killed, itâs just the price we pay for their mis-guided/demented interpretation of the second amendment.
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I wouldnât either. But Iâd like to see the same things 90 percent of other Americans would likeâuniversal background checks and a few other commonsense measures regarding safe storage, training, etc. Only a small percentage of gun violence involves mass shootings, and without total confiscation (very unrealistic here) theyâre probably not preventable. But if we prevented people from circumventing background checks, if we had more pressure to be trained in their safe use and to store and transport them safely, thereâd be far fewer incidents. Thatâs proved. These trolls yelling after after mass shooting that gun control doesnât work, thatâs just a red herring.
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I think the lesson of Newtown is that we can do nothing about this in a plutocracy. Itâs not enough to have a solid majority of the population in favor of gun safety laws since we are so far removed from a functional democracy. We could quickly list 50 policies that are sheer insanity, but they cannot be changed unless the top income decile is affected.
Our laws are Cider House Rules.
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One more point: The shooter exchanged fire twice with law enforcement officers, and itâs not known yet whether they hit him or if he killed himself. Itâs challenging to fire a pistol accurately at a paper target at any distance; neutralizing a moving target that shoots back is really tough even for combat vets. You can scare off an unarmed burglar with a gun, but responding to an attacker like this and stopping him is, for most people, a film-fueled fantasy and not something 99 percent of us could realistically accomplish. People who think they could are kidding themselves. And gun manufacturers, well, thatâs obvious.
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No one is listening and you generally have no vote on our laws. If you want to see political change, then you must be willing to sabotage our economy and legal system. I donât mean violence, but rather anything that will raise the cost of current policies.
I never liked the phrase âpractice random acts of kindness and senseless acts of beautyâ because acts of kindness should be systematic, not random. A more effective approach would be to practice random acts of subversion and senseless acts of vandalism. There wonât be any change until the status quo is destabilized.
Iâve never been able to convince political scientists of this because they always want to persuade people to join their causes. A much more efficient approach would be to simply compel a behavioral change by raising the cost of undesirable activities. It may not work, but it would certainly be more effective than candlelight vigils and sending robo-letters to congress.
ââŚshe was approached by the driver of a black BMW who flashed a handgun and asked âHey, whatâs up?ââŚâ
Her rights?
Sorry. Conservatives defend his right, because God wants them to. Thatâs how corrupt and degenerate the conservative movement has become.
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Iâm pretty sure the conservative response would be that she has the right** to openly carry a bazooka, and shoot anyone who approaches her.
**I donât mean a legal right, of course, these rights are bestowed by an invisible deity with no apparent enforcement mechanism.
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I understand the temptation to engage in this kind of course of action, but behavioral psychologists will tell you that itâs not an effective methodology.
Positive reinforcement promotes behavior that we approve of.
When we want to extinguish behavior, the best approach is to control it, but otherwise ignore it. It will self extinguish.
Why? Because all behavior is purposeful. If it doesnât succeed in accomplishing its purpose it runs out of steam.
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Good luck.
Got it. Repeal ALL gun regulation - really open the floodgates for these deranged assholes.
Apparently the shooting perpetrator is Elliot Rodger, rumored to be the son of Peter Rodger, an assistant director for the Hunger Games. Reason for the shooting spree? Girls did not throw themselves at him and loved him so he decided to shoot them, as per his own words. Entitlement culture at itâs best in rich, progressive Southern California.
Youâre confused. The shooter was insane. Entitlement culture at its best is the carried interest loophole.
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