Discussion for article #236052
I can see some compassion for the children; but those who knew damn well they were breaking the law when they came here illegally should be jailed or deported.
I can agree there should be no second-class citizens. We don’t want to be like Japan where Koreans have lived among them for generations and are still not citizens.
I agree with Hillary 100 percent. We are not going to deport 11 million people who have been here for 5 years or more. We need to do something about it now. Those who have broken the laws should be penalized, but should not be thrown in a detention camp and left to rot there for months or even years. That is just wrong. Some of those detention centers children get put in is barbaric. If we are going to have detention centers than they should damn well be humane. Also, I agree with her on doing executive orders if congress is not going to do their part. Expanding them when necessary is not only right, but the only choice to be made when congress does nothing.
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Why not be hard on those who break immigration law? We certainly have no problem being hard on the people who apply to move here legally; we’ll let them spend years waiting for permission to come here. Meanwhile, we’re all set to do another amnesty for the cheaters who think the law does not apply to them.
Rewards for the lawbreakers and indefinite detention for those who follow the law is no way to run a country.
Anyone hoping to see daylight between Hillary and Obama, or to see her “running away” from him, will be disappointed.
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And, for me, this is what will bolster support for Hillary Clinton. I know the negativity for the President is monumental in terms of the Republicans and the irrational wing nuts. This seems to be a reaction to the successes of Progressive objectives at least among Republicans.
It seems, at least to me, we have been very fortunate for the reset of the past six years, but if the opposition succeeds in a return to the culture wars we will be putting everything at risk.
Long term change does not happen with one president, especially with the bust it and blame attitude of many in the Congressional bubble. Will there be a retreat from opposition at all costs as a strategy that has been in place since before PBO’s inauguration? I don’t think the fever has broken yet. When the only policies that make sense to the Republicans are to destroy others for the sake of power; it seems to be the reason they do not deserve more power. (See; Neoconservative, they have never gone away folks.) A Netanyahu/Cotton alliance is proof of that and Newsmax will tell you all about it with their usual flair.
Just a cursory examination of Republican’s policies on voting, immigration, civil rights is proof of their willingness to stop progress and court the most negative among us. Pity, really.
The Republican(t) Fight Club won’t be talking about their scorch the earth objectives, but don’t forget eight years of dick and w. They will be defending themselves in perpetuity unless they retake power. We don’t have the time and resources for that, but it is survival for them.
I think the question really comes down to more war or not. It will be interesting to see this play out during the Primaries, but neoconservatism is alive and well just like bad religion. The only wild card is us and this is pretty much life and death. We’ll choose the direction.
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