Discussion: 3 Democratic Congressmen Arrested At Trump Tower DREAM Act Demonstration

I like it. Of course, the Cons heads will xplode with all sorts of ‘tweets’ about breaking the law etc. etc. You can only do white collar crime in the Club Fed.

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There’s no mocking that doesn’t say more about him than we are told. His name itself has become his brand. So sorry for anyone who shares it.

We could call him The Pedophile Subway Guy, but that just takes us back to Jared.

I’d really like to know how it is that the Dreamers now view the Dems as the enemy, vs. the GOP.

I understand that Obama did a fair amount of deportations, but were those Dreamers or were those folks who sincerely over-stayed their welcome or committed crimes? Where does one find that kind of granularity in the data?

I’m with you sister, but throwing all in in this climate may not be wise. It should always be One America, but Trump has fractured it.

Not sure if you meant to reply to my post. I was suggesting that the time to go for broke is when you control House,Senate and President and when that existed the financial crisis and healthcare were more important. B y the time they got to immigration they had lost the House and it was to late. THen the Senate went and he was left with nothing but Exec orders. So you’re right, no reason to be blaming the Dems, I think it’s mostly posturing, asking foe Moon and settling for the Beach House so to speak.

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Nope.

The US sent 12.3 million undocumented immigrants out of the country during the Clinton administration, 10.3 million during the Bush administration, and 5.3 million during the Obama administration.

What increased during the Obama administration was “removals”. During the previous administrations, most of the immigrants apprehended were sent back as “voluntary” “returns,” which means they agreed not to contest their right to be in the country and they climbed onto a bus that took them back into Mexico.

During the Bush administration, the emphasis began to shift from returns to removals, because of the perception that many of those returned just tried again soon afterward. Obama retained that emphasis, and the trend towards more returns was assisted by the fact that an increasing number of the immigrants apprehended were not Mexican citizens and couldn’t just be sent back over the border.

Now, it is reasonable to argue that “removal” and “deportation” are the same thing, but it is not reasonable to argue that deportations and “deported workers” (your term) are the same. Obama didn’t just emphasize removals over returns; he set priorities for those to be removed. His twin goals were to remove those who committed crimes and to discourage new immigrants by using removals more often for those caught near the border or caught relatively soon after crossing.

In November 2014, President Obama announced a number of further changes in immigration enforcement, including agencywide policy guidance on which categories of removable noncitizens should be the highest priority for enforcement. Three levels were detailed:
Priority 1: National security threats, noncitizens apprehended immediately at the border, gang members, and noncitizens convicted of felonies or aggravated felonies as defined in immigration law.
Priority 2: Noncitizens convicted of three or more misdemeanors or one serious misdemeanor, those who entered or re-entered the United States unlawfully after January 1, 2014, and those who have significantly abused visa or visa waiver programs.
Priority 3: Noncitizens subject to a final order of removal issued on or after January 1, 2014.
The priorities codified a trend initiated in 2009 (see Table 2).

Table 2. Removals and Their Relationship to the 2014 Enforcement Priorities

Source: Marc R. Rosenblum, Understanding the Potential Impact of Executive Action on Immigration Enforcement (Washington, DC: Migration Policy Institute, 2015), available online.

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Interesting! Thanks for explaining that.

No prob.

Obama really was creating an immigration policy instead of waiting forever for Congress to put something together.

Now, here is something related, but nauseating.

Congress established something called a Detention Bed Quota. It sets a minimum for the number of immigrants that authorities must hold in detention. Most of the detention facilities are operated by for-profit companies. You can do a search for reporting on the matter, but a good place to start is this timeline of the quota. Start at the bottom.