So terribly sad.
Well, we shouldnât be focusing on safety issues with converted limos. Doing so could hurt the job creators that own them. After all, the point is to have less regulation, not more. As a country, we need to be more friendly to job creators, to whom we owe everything, and from whom all good things flow.
Meanwhile, donât worry about all the carnage.
Blowing a stop sign is not stopping for the sign? I think the headline should be something more like â20 Die When Limo on Way to Birthday Party Ignores Stop Sign.â Of course, the tragedy overwhelms such minor details.
1 stop sign 10 ft before the highway ends. No early warning signs
Google Earth it
Schoharie, ny
rt 30 and 30A
that intersection has ate up a lot of accidents in 30 years.
Lived not far from there and if you donât know it, especially at night, odds are against you.
Now they might put a red light up after this accident.
These tragedies are especially poignant when people are having fun, in high spirits, and then they die in such a cruel way. So heartbreaking.
I live near the Schoharie Valley, Iâve been through that intersection and at that store many times. Just up the road is the Carrot Barn. The valley suffered terrible flooding form Hurricane Irene, and years before that the Schoharie Creek washed out a NY State Thruway bridge, among those killed were my wifeâs uncleâs bowling team - off to a tournament⌠The valley has seen itâs shares of disasters, but this is the worst. It is a beautiful and peaceful place, full of patriots, the best farmland one can find, and strong individuals. We used to make a point of stopping at all the farm stands in the fall, each known for itâs specialties (Barberâs had the best potatoes). I canât imagine why these things keep happening there.
Thereâs a âstop aheadâ sign 1000ft from the end, and obviously THE ROAD ENDS which should be apparent to anyone looking through the front of the car, which in my experience there are windows in the fronts of cars for drivers to look out of.
Very sad.
I see these stretch limos all the time in Oregonâs Willamette Valley wine country and Iâve always wondered about their structural integrity.
Either something wrong with the driver or something wrong with the vehicle, like the brakes failing. Either one could explain the 60mph downhill approach, failure to stop (maybe even to slow down; the article isnât clear).
Unless theyâre looking down at their phones. Iâve been rear ended twice thanks to idiots like that.
I just saw a 1970 chevy monte carlo and smelling itâs exhaust reminded me that all the republicans that want to roll back emissions need to ride behind an unregulated car for a few hours breathing that shit. Hopefully that would change their minds. And I hope the tragedy of this will make them change their minds about
reducing safety.
My impression from other reports is that the road they were on has a significant slope down into the intersection. At 60 MPH, the limo could have been going too fast for the brakes to slow it in time - especially if the brakes werenât upgraded sufficiently to handle the increased weight of the vehicle.
Assuming the original vehicle was designed for a driver and 3 passengers, the 20 passengers plus driver alone added over a ton of weight to the vehicle.
(Driver error compounded by inadequate equipment)
this presumes a state of mind that isnât known.
what if the driver was unconscious?
From article below
The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, is a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, a law enforcement official confirmed.
It is still better than âblows stop signâ which sounds as if explosives were used.