It wouldn’t but it would indicate that she recognized she was a Canadian citizen. What revokes American citizenship is not dual citizenship or even voting in another country’s election but the knowing and intentional renunciation of American allegiance. And the oath required in Canada at the time of Ted’s birth required such a renunciation.
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Can’t be deported to Canada if his citizenship renunciation went through. Perhaps Cuba would take him.
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I follow your line of thinking … but would this automatically force our own Immigration people to revoke her American citizenship – just knowing she swore to such an oath without going through the official process on our side of the border? Would it somehow force their hand on this kind of decision?
I think it might if they knew about it. The loss of citizenship would not occur at the point that they found out about it, but at the point that she swore that oath, if she did.
I doubt that there was any sharing between the US and Canada in the 1970s as to who had attained citizenship in each country.
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If the US has her listed as a US citizen, she remains a US citizen until the US decides to take away her citizenship. They never did. So she was a citizen.
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Source? I wanna know — can’t you just see Trump running around stating that he knows very few Evangelicals who commit bigamy? LOL
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The U.S. Code does, however, see some acts as creating the possibility of a loss of nationality. When you lose your U.S. nationality, you are no longer under the protection or jurisdiction of the United States. When the United States considers you to no longer be of U.S. nationality, it in effect considers you to no longer be a citizen. Note that these are things you can do that may force you to lose your citizenship. The law also says that these acts must be voluntary and with the intent of losing U.S. citizenship. The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481:
•Becoming naturalized in another country
•Swearing an oath of allegiance to another country
•Serving in the armed forces of a nation at war with the U.S., or if you are an officer in that force
•Working for the government of another nation if doing so requires that you become naturalized or that you swear an oath of allegiance
•Formally renouncing citizenship at a U.S. consular office
•Formally renouncing citizenship to the U.S. Attorney General
•By being convicted of committing treason
Constitutional Topic: Citizenship – The U.S. Constitution Online – USConstitution.net – U.S. Constitution.net
The very act of taking an oath of allegiance of being naturalized in another country can invalidate a person’s U. S. Citizenship.
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No, her loss of citizenship would relate back to the time she took the action which deprived her of it in all likelihood.
Now, that would be frickin’ funny – no finalized divorce. 
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Wouldn’t make any difference to his citizenship though.
Depends if she did it before or after his birth.
It is really nice of TPM to give Cruz every benefit of every doubt. I notice the media didn’t extend Obama the same.
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Well, there ya go – bitch wasn’t a U.S. citizen. Get out, Ted. You’re already not a Canadian–by your own doing–perhaps Cuba will take your ass? /s
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So you are suggesting they posthumously take back her citizenship based on one oath she took, with zero proof that she did not just lie so she could be a dual citizen. And in fact an oath that did NOT renounce her actual US citizenship (that wording is not in the oath)?
Sounds a bit out there to me. I think this one is best left alone, there is really nothing there.
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MrComments, while I think you’re correct, I must admit that this does make for good theater. After all they put President Obama–and we who supported him–through on this very topic, I have no sympathy or empathy for them. Let them dangle in the cold, wet wind.
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She only did one of those things, and many citizens who have or had dual citizenship have done the same. It’s the US who then must force the issue, and only they have the power to renounce it. And in her case, it was never done. And you certainly can’t do it after she is dead, since it says the statements MUST be with the intent of losing US citizenship, and it’s quite possible she just did it to get dual citizenship. It certainly can’t be proven at this point. So now it’s just silly conjecture.
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How do we know she’s really dead? Has Alberta Rafael produced the long form death certificate?
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Yes, as long as it’s THEM. Liberals should just leave this be, and let THOSE clowns be the jackass show. Just let them go at it, but do not get involved.
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Well, we know now that it’s not only his father from whom Ted gets his penchant for lying.
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Now that could make for some fun theater…
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